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Beeeee's avatar

Glad they’re getting scared. It takes an incredible dipshit to want to die to protect a pedophile who wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire

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Shawn Nottage's avatar

Donald Trump and Noem have made ICE agents unsafe everywhere, possibly forever.

Lot of a career workers there have to be incredibly pissed to watch these fat out of shape pigs come in and fuck the bag up after working hard and trying to do their job for many years.

I wouldn't associate with young pricks like that at my job. Would you?

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Blippety Blop's avatar

The agent who murdered Renee Good has been an ICE agent for 10 years.

There were also investigations years ago into ICE agents purposely placing themselves in front of cars to try and justify violence. ICE has always been a problem, it’s just clearer under this administration.

There’s no “good ICE agents” anyone is fucking this up for. Absolutely no such thing. The terror they have been inflicting is just much more public now.

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Shawn Nottage's avatar

I very intentionally chose my words and did not use the term "good work". It's inhumane work.

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Amrita B's avatar

Appreciate the clips from the "legal refresher." I fervently hope that NO ONE volunteers and they have to call the whole thing off...

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Perry Arcone's avatar

Thank you, Ken. All of this is very useful to know. In particular, it is good to know that there is resistance among some ICE officials and those on the ground to the thuggish methods of immigration enforcement in Minneapolis and elsewhere in the country.

A few days ago, a commenter (JM) on one of Andrew Sullivan's Substack Notes described the Renee Good situation well (I hope he or she won't mind my including it here):

"I work for a major metropolitan police department in the South and let me tell you, any cop who handled an encounter the way this ICE officer did would’ve been strung up by internal affairs within 2 minutes.

1) No body cam (can you imagine real cops taking out their cell phones to film an encounter, breaking all manner of policies regarding privacy)?

2) Jumping out of a generic silver pickup truck with nothing identifying it as a law enforcement vehicle.

3) Officers not identifying themselves and immediately running up and escalating the situation by screaming swear words and pulling on the door handle (no cop in a million years would do this; you keep your distance, make verbal contact first, deescalate, ensure the scene is secure—hands on steering wheel etc—then approach the suspect).

4) Accosting a citizen when there’s no report of her in distress or engaged in illegal activity. In other words, she’s not a suspect. If she’s impeding traffic or a law enforcement activity, you tell her to move along. If she refuses to comply, there are procedures for detaining her in a safe, secure manner.

5) Firing at a moving vehicle, including through the driver’s side window, endangering other people’s lives who might be standing on the other side of the vehicle (bullets go through a car door like tin foil)

6) There’s more, but the point is this ICE officer failed at every level. At worst, Renee Good was protesting ICE and being a bit obnoxious about it. She clearly was not trying to harm anyone. She might’ve panicked with all these gunmen screaming at her, She might’ve just said “fuck it” and tried to drive off. Whatever the case, this is 100% on this ICE officer and the practices (they’re not really even policies) of the ICE terror regime."

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Chris D's avatar

Sure do hope they’re giving them a “legal refresher” on the authority (or lack of) to enter people’s homes minus exigent circumstances, or a CRIMINAL arrest warrant signed by a judge — not an administrative, civil immigration warrant.

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Carol Draizen's avatar

So following ICE thugs with whistles, insulting & yelling are effective tactics & we need to keep that up—if not escalate. I’ve got a whole collection of insults in English & Spanish ready to unleash on them. The constant harassment has got to wear them down. These are not guys with pride of purpose or interior resources & insight or they wouldn’t be doing that horrendous, evil work.

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Lori Holmquist's avatar

Ken and his team out here doing the real work. As a Minnesotan, I thank you.

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Ken Klippenstein's avatar

Glad you find it helpful, Lori!

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Ak's avatar

This is quite scary. The reasonable people in DHS are not the ones leading and volunteering to go to Minneapolis.

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Blippety Blop's avatar

Your source should quit. No difference between a N@zi and a hesitant N@zi.

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Annie Gottlieb's avatar

Perry Arcane writes "it is good to know that there is resistance among some ICE officials and those on the ground." I too found a glimmer of potential reassurance in that.

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RealNoDeuces's avatar

I don't see any way this gets the public the pics of hunters hawg we crave.

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Ken Klippenstein's avatar

patience my friend

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Carol Draizen's avatar

I forgot filming the thugs.

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X K's avatar

What, there is evidence of unease, even hints of conscience among the robotic foot soldiers in the Don's crime syndicate?* What is this country coming to? What then remains to threaten, intimidate, demean people, whether citizens or not? Anarchy is on the horizon, and you know what that means: it's only gonna get worse.

*To be fair, all that comes under the umbrella of Homeland Security horses*** originated with Dumbya and Cheney, two of the staunchest defenders of civil liberties this country has (n)ever known.

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Jessica Drew's avatar

I'm still wondering how long they are going to "surge" in Minneapolis, and where they will be "surging" next.

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Carol Draizen's avatar

Actually I just read that the ICE thug who murdered Renee Good told a neighborhood meeting that he was a “botanist”, so they obviously aren’t trying to admit what they do. From the Daily Beast that has lots of anti-trump gossip.

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