One wonders where Palantir's tech is at in their attempt to link all of the data together.
I also cannot stress that being tracked on a list for attending protests - which is a first amendment right - is incredibly comcerning. Attending protests and posting disagreements online are not crimes.
But what do I know, I'm probably on those lists. 🤷
I would bet they are pretty far along. Recall the PROMIS scandal of the I wanna say mid or late 80s. Add in "AI" and gigabit internet, and all the time that's gone into this and I bet there's one or two dudes with the keys to a "fusion" center that rules them all (per KK's Sauron analogy).
You are very right John. Some interesting facts about US firms building surveillance tech for China. One thing that stood out to me was when AI was wrong it didn't matter much.
Imagine if the DOJ put this expense and effort into the Epstein / Trump / Maxwell files! 😡 Oh wait, surveilling, harassing, abusing, and murdering US citizens and immigrants is just a way to distract from an international child sex trafficking ring headed by Donald’s best friend and the billionaire fascist takeover of our government.
I am guessing anyone on Substack liking posts such as this are on the "slipstream" list, but what do I know? Slipstream is a trope in science fiction, which makes this all very meta.
I'm on the list with Renee Good and Alex Petti and Keith Portman. Probably several lists since I post that on a sign in my yard with my save palestine signs.
You go Shawn. Great rant. Big tech is selling gold plated turds to G’mint. Unfortunately, won’t matter if they don’t work as advertised and you’re a false positive.
The move by the surveillance tech providers is we just supply the tech and cannot be liable for how g’mints use it. Would love to see some legal folks work hard to pierce that bogus liability shield.
It seems like 9/11 was our Reichstag fire. The resulting Patriot Act gave us DHS and ICE. The Director of National Inelligence, today Tulsi Gabbard, was also created. Since then guns and mass murder have proliferated in America and the surveillance and police state has grown with it. Anyone under 27 years old has never known anything other than this, and schools and media today are afraid to challenge this worldview that we need constant surveillance and police presence to live happily. The War on Terror is now a War on Dissent.
You're killing it out there! I've heard your name dropped more times than I can count by pundits/commentators in the last few weeks. Keep up the good work.
Hi Ken Klippenstein! I have tried asking a few other times, and it's quite possible you can't comment on this for reasons of journalistic integrity, but if they have all of these watchlists and databases, is it possible they also have lists of the people on these lists that are licensed gun owners? It seems logical, to me, that if they're concerning themselves with people who even raise their voices at ICE, that they would definitely want to know which of those people could be carrying a gun. The rapidity with which the attack on Alex Pretti escalated to seven men jumping him, to one man seemingly approaching while they had him on his knees to remove Alex's gun and run off with it, to they immediately opened fire on Alex, it all seems, at best, like they have a protocol in place in cases where someone is armed to, at worst, they knew Alex would be there and be armed. And that they are looking to make examples of people so they can use them as a guise for weakening Second Amendment rights. This seems particularly plausible, given that we learned recently that Alex Pretti had been assaulted by ICE just a week before his murder, and was treated for a broken rib. Anyway, this has been bugging me, and my neurodiverse propensity for pattern recognition just cannot let it go. Thanks so much for the work that you do, and stay safe!! And it's ok if you can't comment on this, I just needed to ask. Again.
Well, thank you for your response! I'm not typically given towards conspiracy theorizing, it just seems weird how none of the officers seemed surprised that Alex had a gun, nor did there appear to be any discussion about disarming him before the grey jacket guy ran up and took the gun and ran off. I will keep watching what happens, but I never thought I would see a bunch of Republicans disregard the Second Amendment so quickly, so it's something to think about! For me, I mean, I don't have to report on facts. I really appreciate (and am always impressed by) your tenacity and ability to get insiders to talk to you! You have a trustworthy face 😊
Dude they can see your weapon through your clothes, like at the airport. Non-ionizing "x-rays". The terahertz frequencies like your cell phone and bluetooth devices use "see" in near-infrared through clothing, drywall, curtains, and don't get me started on how roadsigns reflect images in near infra-red that you can see through ypur phone cam. You can order a terahertz camera online, what do suppose ICE can order up?
Yeah I don't know anything about technology or what capabilities they have, but I do notice patterns, and I do get an unshakable nagging feeling when things are just not adding up. The administration is moving too quickly, it's quite obvious they're seeing what Constitutional violations they can get away with, and the same people who have defended the slaughter of school children for like 30 years are suddenly just fine with a US citizen being murdered for carrying a legal weapon. Not to mention the fact that we're all being told to respect law enforcement when these are literal Proud Boys and sex criminals assaulting and kidnapping people on the streets. So the motive seems easy to parce, I just wasn't sure how easy it would be for ICE to know if someone were carrying, and to fabricate a situation where 2A loyalists would blame a concealed carrier for his own public execution without him ever even drawing his weapon. What an exciting time to be alive!
Thank you, this is incredibly important reporting, and it is insanely dangerous to have the government maintain watchlists of Americans suspected of <whatever they want>. I feel like one detail gets buried here:
“...but ever since January 6, not only have we expanded exponentially into purely domestic watchlisting, but we have also created a highly secretive and compartmented superstructure that few even understand,” says a DHS attorney intimately familiar with the subject.
This was started after January 6, i.e. under the Biden Administration. In this (as in so much else), the Biden Administration was undermining the rule of law (domestically and internationally) and empowering authoritarianism. Trump's fascist took the tools that Biden's people handed them.
Reality, as Arkin and his protégés have written about extensively, is 9/11 is where an order of magnitude shift occurred in the secret state. Bush > Obama > Trump > Biden and Congress played along. Hugely expensive and dubious in outcomes.
That’s it, that’s the moment the machine gains life and people who supposed to control it were just following orders.
A favorite Nuremberg defense.
“Lists of this and that—this social media post, that video taken of someone videoing ICE, the mere attendance at a protest—gets pulsed by federal cops on the beat to check for criminality but eventually just becomes a list itself of criminality, with the cops thinking that indeed they are dealing with criminals and terrorists.”
Many MAGA cultists have been convinced that it is an asset to immerse themselves in echo chambers that reinforce their preferred worldview while rejecting all other views as being part of a vast conspiracy enterprise. Never forget that there are benefits that come with such positioning. One is a sense of community with others who also find comfort in being ‘so special.’
It’s not only MAGA in echo chambers. We all need to forage on different information sources and use critical thinking so we are not just holler back folks.
I would like this to be part of whatever congressional hearings that need to be taking place as they fight to NOT FUND homeland security anymore. There are other companies like Deloitte that have been helping them with developing tracking systems.. I saw they have a contract for the tracking of the children they are taking ..I know that is different but looking at the contracts they have given out you can see all the consulting firms involved in this crap and are paying for his ballroom. !
It seems that practical democracy is not compatible with much of the technology that has come into common use over the last couple of decades, from social media platforms to cell phones to facial recognition, to license plate readers, to bots, to deepfakes, to voter profiling, to electronic voting counting, to digital cash and all the other technologies that can be used to make our lives less private and more controllable. (I'm sure you add many more to my off-the-top-of-my-head list.) In theory, there could be rules and regulations to protect us, but the combined nature of technology and capitalism and bureaucracy always trumps such good intentions. If they can do it, they will. And then, of course, there is A.I. to supercharge things. Democracy is expendable when these forces combine. Sorry not to be more optimistic.
One wonders where Palantir's tech is at in their attempt to link all of the data together.
I also cannot stress that being tracked on a list for attending protests - which is a first amendment right - is incredibly comcerning. Attending protests and posting disagreements online are not crimes.
But what do I know, I'm probably on those lists. 🤷
Sometimes I wonder if all the tech isn't also to "disappear" some data as it's aggregating. This just keeps getting worse
I would bet they are pretty far along. Recall the PROMIS scandal of the I wanna say mid or late 80s. Add in "AI" and gigabit internet, and all the time that's gone into this and I bet there's one or two dudes with the keys to a "fusion" center that rules them all (per KK's Sauron analogy).
Maybe DOGE left a backdoor in Treasury and I PROMIS this is just speculation.
Amazing work and thank you. That’s why I subscribe.
Glad you find it helpful!!
Likewise Ken. Keep it coming.
exactly
Add the fact that AI is constantly dead wrong, it sets up a potential Josef K. kafkaesque scenario for virtually anyone.
You are very right John. Some interesting facts about US firms building surveillance tech for China. One thing that stood out to me was when AI was wrong it didn't matter much.
https://apnews.com/article/chinese-surveillance-silicon-valley-uyghurs-tech-xinjiang-a80904158b771a14d5a734947f28d71b
Imagine if the DOJ put this expense and effort into the Epstein / Trump / Maxwell files! 😡 Oh wait, surveilling, harassing, abusing, and murdering US citizens and immigrants is just a way to distract from an international child sex trafficking ring headed by Donald’s best friend and the billionaire fascist takeover of our government.
Oh they can go fuck themselves. This country is going in the shitter.
I am guessing anyone on Substack liking posts such as this are on the "slipstream" list, but what do I know? Slipstream is a trope in science fiction, which makes this all very meta.
Doncha mean the Klipstream?
I'm on the list with Renee Good and Alex Petti and Keith Portman. Probably several lists since I post that on a sign in my yard with my save palestine signs.
at this point if you ain't on a list, you're #DoingItWrong
You go Shawn. Great rant. Big tech is selling gold plated turds to G’mint. Unfortunately, won’t matter if they don’t work as advertised and you’re a false positive.
The move by the surveillance tech providers is we just supply the tech and cannot be liable for how g’mints use it. Would love to see some legal folks work hard to pierce that bogus liability shield.
damn near every day, i think back to 9/11 and the 25 years of civil liberty erosion we've endured in the name of "national security".
It seems like 9/11 was our Reichstag fire. The resulting Patriot Act gave us DHS and ICE. The Director of National Inelligence, today Tulsi Gabbard, was also created. Since then guns and mass murder have proliferated in America and the surveillance and police state has grown with it. Anyone under 27 years old has never known anything other than this, and schools and media today are afraid to challenge this worldview that we need constant surveillance and police presence to live happily. The War on Terror is now a War on Dissent.
You're killing it out there! I've heard your name dropped more times than I can count by pundits/commentators in the last few weeks. Keep up the good work.
Hey thanks!
Hi Ken Klippenstein! I have tried asking a few other times, and it's quite possible you can't comment on this for reasons of journalistic integrity, but if they have all of these watchlists and databases, is it possible they also have lists of the people on these lists that are licensed gun owners? It seems logical, to me, that if they're concerning themselves with people who even raise their voices at ICE, that they would definitely want to know which of those people could be carrying a gun. The rapidity with which the attack on Alex Pretti escalated to seven men jumping him, to one man seemingly approaching while they had him on his knees to remove Alex's gun and run off with it, to they immediately opened fire on Alex, it all seems, at best, like they have a protocol in place in cases where someone is armed to, at worst, they knew Alex would be there and be armed. And that they are looking to make examples of people so they can use them as a guise for weakening Second Amendment rights. This seems particularly plausible, given that we learned recently that Alex Pretti had been assaulted by ICE just a week before his murder, and was treated for a broken rib. Anyway, this has been bugging me, and my neurodiverse propensity for pattern recognition just cannot let it go. Thanks so much for the work that you do, and stay safe!! And it's ok if you can't comment on this, I just needed to ask. Again.
I honestly don't know. There's so much secrecy inherent in these watchlist efforts that it's hard to surmise much
Well, thank you for your response! I'm not typically given towards conspiracy theorizing, it just seems weird how none of the officers seemed surprised that Alex had a gun, nor did there appear to be any discussion about disarming him before the grey jacket guy ran up and took the gun and ran off. I will keep watching what happens, but I never thought I would see a bunch of Republicans disregard the Second Amendment so quickly, so it's something to think about! For me, I mean, I don't have to report on facts. I really appreciate (and am always impressed by) your tenacity and ability to get insiders to talk to you! You have a trustworthy face 😊
Dude they can see your weapon through your clothes, like at the airport. Non-ionizing "x-rays". The terahertz frequencies like your cell phone and bluetooth devices use "see" in near-infrared through clothing, drywall, curtains, and don't get me started on how roadsigns reflect images in near infra-red that you can see through ypur phone cam. You can order a terahertz camera online, what do suppose ICE can order up?
Yeah I don't know anything about technology or what capabilities they have, but I do notice patterns, and I do get an unshakable nagging feeling when things are just not adding up. The administration is moving too quickly, it's quite obvious they're seeing what Constitutional violations they can get away with, and the same people who have defended the slaughter of school children for like 30 years are suddenly just fine with a US citizen being murdered for carrying a legal weapon. Not to mention the fact that we're all being told to respect law enforcement when these are literal Proud Boys and sex criminals assaulting and kidnapping people on the streets. So the motive seems easy to parce, I just wasn't sure how easy it would be for ICE to know if someone were carrying, and to fabricate a situation where 2A loyalists would blame a concealed carrier for his own public execution without him ever even drawing his weapon. What an exciting time to be alive!
Thank you, this is incredibly important reporting, and it is insanely dangerous to have the government maintain watchlists of Americans suspected of <whatever they want>. I feel like one detail gets buried here:
“...but ever since January 6, not only have we expanded exponentially into purely domestic watchlisting, but we have also created a highly secretive and compartmented superstructure that few even understand,” says a DHS attorney intimately familiar with the subject.
This was started after January 6, i.e. under the Biden Administration. In this (as in so much else), the Biden Administration was undermining the rule of law (domestically and internationally) and empowering authoritarianism. Trump's fascist took the tools that Biden's people handed them.
Reality, as Arkin and his protégés have written about extensively, is 9/11 is where an order of magnitude shift occurred in the secret state. Bush > Obama > Trump > Biden and Congress played along. Hugely expensive and dubious in outcomes.
That’s it, that’s the moment the machine gains life and people who supposed to control it were just following orders.
A favorite Nuremberg defense.
“Lists of this and that—this social media post, that video taken of someone videoing ICE, the mere attendance at a protest—gets pulsed by federal cops on the beat to check for criminality but eventually just becomes a list itself of criminality, with the cops thinking that indeed they are dealing with criminals and terrorists.”
Many MAGA cultists have been convinced that it is an asset to immerse themselves in echo chambers that reinforce their preferred worldview while rejecting all other views as being part of a vast conspiracy enterprise. Never forget that there are benefits that come with such positioning. One is a sense of community with others who also find comfort in being ‘so special.’
It’s not only MAGA in echo chambers. We all need to forage on different information sources and use critical thinking so we are not just holler back folks.
I would like this to be part of whatever congressional hearings that need to be taking place as they fight to NOT FUND homeland security anymore. There are other companies like Deloitte that have been helping them with developing tracking systems.. I saw they have a contract for the tracking of the children they are taking ..I know that is different but looking at the contracts they have given out you can see all the consulting firms involved in this crap and are paying for his ballroom. !
What is this shit? It's Big Brother Bullshit is what it is. Bi-partisan Big Brother Bullshit. Big Beautiful Bill Bi-Partisan Big Brother Bullshit.
BBBBBBB - B7
It seems that practical democracy is not compatible with much of the technology that has come into common use over the last couple of decades, from social media platforms to cell phones to facial recognition, to license plate readers, to bots, to deepfakes, to voter profiling, to electronic voting counting, to digital cash and all the other technologies that can be used to make our lives less private and more controllable. (I'm sure you add many more to my off-the-top-of-my-head list.) In theory, there could be rules and regulations to protect us, but the combined nature of technology and capitalism and bureaucracy always trumps such good intentions. If they can do it, they will. And then, of course, there is A.I. to supercharge things. Democracy is expendable when these forces combine. Sorry not to be more optimistic.
This is truly frightening but good to know