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ElliePDX's avatar

As a trans woman, I won't celebrate charlie kirk's murder, even though he would have celebrated mine.

I never advocated for violence against him, even though he advocated for violence against me.

I won't use this situation as a pretext to encourage further violence, even though so many are doing just that right now to honor him, because they know that's what he would have wanted.

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Sander Hicks's avatar

Ken,

why ask such insouciant rhetorical questions about Saudi support of the 911 hijackers when we know Prince Bhandar (aka Bandhar Bush) and Princess Haifa did fund key hijackers like Nawaf Al Hazmi and Khalid Al-Mihdar. According to author Joe Trento they were agents of Saudi intelligence. They were protected by the FBI, by the DIA, they were protected from the Able Danger operation, and they lived with an FBI informant in San Diego. Israel was clearly involved in some way in 911 and you don’t have to be a member of a marginal Arab media group to say so. Just look at the East Rutherford police records! East Rutherford, New Jersey police arrested five celebrating Israelis, on the morning of 911 who were videotaping the attacks from across the harbor. They were intelligence agents and that’s why the FBI counterintelligence took over the case, until Michael Cheroff intervened, and then all five Israelis were deported without a trial. Sources on this include The Forward, of all places. There’s a good documented paper trail on this and you should look into it. It starts with the East Rutherford police records. I can help you get those.

Otherwise, good article. I learned a few things. I’ve written two books about 911, personally.

I enjoyed your article because it pointed out that there are still a lot of rocks to turn over. But I’m not sure you see all the rocks either.

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Lori's avatar

I was thinking about the East Rutherford arrests too.

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Denise O'Leary-Siemer's avatar

I had only heard Charlie Kirk’s name mentioned on Breaking Point and other news outlets; I didn’t listen to his podcasts until after he was murdered. I chose the last one recorded. Kirk discussed black and white crime, white people crimes against black people, black people crimes against white people, proclaiming black crimes against whites was much higher. The vitriol was unnerving. If this one segment is the normal Kirk podcasts, Kirk’s goal was to piss off young listeners.

KIrk did not deserve to be murdered. Stirring up people’s anger is risky business.

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Mike Miller's avatar

Don’t you see, Scully. The carefully selected information released allows them to control public opinion to put reserve plans in motion.

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Lori's avatar

Ken, I appreciate your reporting so much, I learn something new every time.

It's quite a surreal experience to see so much death meted out on the phone screen - yesterday in particular, and Gaza especially - and to realize that I feel incapable of doing a whole lot about it.

Is the information void is a feature, not a bug? There to sow division, between countries and between people? That sure looked like an expert assassination yesterday. Who did it we will probably never know, but the act has likely surpassed its goal of getting Americans to engage against one another (and distract from other pressing matters). I had to get off of social media yesterday after reading so many death threats.

I find this level of obfuscation terrifying, tempered some by reading that I'm not imagining it. Please keep doing what you are doing. The truth matters.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

Israel killed Kirk – see OUTSTANDING Krainer video below

Kirk was a believer who started to doubt – he was likely murdered by Israel + UK fascists?

US is an occupied country – 75%+ of Congress and Senate are in Israel’s pocket. Once US Christian Zionist lunatics, that is non-Christian criminals in charge of “feeding” 2M+ Gazans, sufficiently starve them – desperate survivors would “willingly” move to Antarctica

US totally supports two Nazi-dominated governments – of U and I. Need to change the suicidal WW3 path.

Alex Krainer: Charlie Kirk SHOT DEAD - Israel Attack CRUMBLES – “Russian” Drones Over Poland

Sept 11 -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROQgMvcxV_s&t=3841s

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Ash's avatar

Yeah, they'd kill their only pro-Israel voice not on social security. That makes sense.

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Ash's avatar

A point to ponder: pretty much everyone alive is aware of the conspiracy theory that the Israelis did 911 despite the fact that has no basis in reality. Almost no one knows the Saudi angle despite the fact its true! Chew on that the next time someone tells you who "really" runs the media.

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