Excellent work, as usual, Ken. What I'm looking for is an explanation of how the jury fell for this? This was a jury trial, no? How could the jury fall for this crap?
The judge seems to have had an appropriate level of skepticism, though. Why such long sentences? Decades in prison for vandalism is clearly cruel and unusual. Attempted murder of a police officer is a very serious crime, of course, and Song deserves to cool his heels for quite some time, but 100 years is way out of line with the usual sentences for this crime, isn't it?
My guess is these were mandatory minimums for "terrorism". In my view, mandatory minimum sentences violate the Constitutional separation of powers. We should start talking about that.
It’s not clear from what Song has said that this was attempted murder. I read he claimed he was defending one of his associates and had not been aiming his weapon at the officer.
During all the J6 prosecutions, I was actually appalled at some of the sentences they were handed out. My thought was where are all my fellow leftists that want to overhaul our judicial system of grossly overcharging and long sentences and where are my leftist friends not calling out for better prison conditions. Because no one on the left that has any power did anything about it, now the right is doing the same thing. We have to be better about sticking up for the other side when it presents itself. Causing damage, shooting someone is a crime, but the mass shooter in Norway that killed 28(?) people got a 21 year sentence with weekly mental health treatment and yearly review of his progress. Now they will probably keep him longer because he isn’t mentally stable still, but they are trying their hardest to help him. The USA prisons are for profit corporations. Crime does pay, it pays CoreCivic and GEO billions of dollars to cage humans in inhumane conditions.
Dang! I didn't know it, but I'm a downright antifascist myself! (Antifa for short). I have never met our Leader, and I'm scouring the internet to find him... or her... but I'm still looking...
I have never shot at a Police Officer or defaced private or public property, but I do find myself musing every once in a while about a certain felon who got the help of Russia and $10 Million from Fox News to get elected in 2016, requested 11,000 more vote from Brad Raffensperger, is rumored to have raped a 13 year old (credibly) , still has not paid E. Jean Carol, hid a ton of American documents at Mar a Lago, was impeached twice (but not removed because of a weird OLC memo, separated babies from their mothers and fathers during the first term and is still doing it, has established concentration camps and dreaming of making more, kidnapped a head of State, started an illegal war, fomented an Insurrection because he didn't like the results of the 2020 election, and is still murdering folks extrajudicially in boats that he assumes are carrying drugs....
I was sympathetic to Israel because of the Holocaust but their behavior vis a vis Gaza and Palestinians in general made me lose all sympathy for them.
I keep hoping that someone will off Bibi, Trump, JD Vance, Thiel, Musk, and some members of his cabinet, especially those that may be mentioned in the Epstein files, some SCOTUS who have gotten a lot of perks under the table but kept mum about it..
I'm not sure how many years I could get if the felon got wind of what I'm thinking and saying to my friends, sometimes).
After renaming the Department of Defense, we should rename the Department of Injustice.
For what I'm thinking, they might decide on a preemptive strike on me.
If we still had a Department of Justice and those Prairieland 8 got 450 years collectively for what they did, how many years should the Felon in Chief get for all HE did all by himself?
Looks like the left wing version of what happened to the January 6th, 2021, demonstrators. Extremely lengthy sentences and some only marginally involved (or not even involved) getting thrown into the clinker.
Wish folks from left to right would notice that governments will do this to anyone and while your tribe might spare you the opposing tribe will not.
Both Chris Hedges and I are against the overly harsh prosecutions of the January 6th demonstrators. Whether I agree with both sets of protesters is immaterial to me. I worry about governments throwing anyone that opposes their narratives into jail for a long time. We should not all become Starmer’s UK.
Excellent work, as usual, Ken. What I'm looking for is an explanation of how the jury fell for this? This was a jury trial, no? How could the jury fall for this crap?
Unfortunately the transcripts don’t shed any light on this and I have no way to know what the jury was thinking. Your guess is as good as mine.
The judge seems to have had an appropriate level of skepticism, though. Why such long sentences? Decades in prison for vandalism is clearly cruel and unusual. Attempted murder of a police officer is a very serious crime, of course, and Song deserves to cool his heels for quite some time, but 100 years is way out of line with the usual sentences for this crime, isn't it?
My guess is these were mandatory minimums for "terrorism". In my view, mandatory minimum sentences violate the Constitutional separation of powers. We should start talking about that.
It’s not clear from what Song has said that this was attempted murder. I read he claimed he was defending one of his associates and had not been aiming his weapon at the officer.
During all the J6 prosecutions, I was actually appalled at some of the sentences they were handed out. My thought was where are all my fellow leftists that want to overhaul our judicial system of grossly overcharging and long sentences and where are my leftist friends not calling out for better prison conditions. Because no one on the left that has any power did anything about it, now the right is doing the same thing. We have to be better about sticking up for the other side when it presents itself. Causing damage, shooting someone is a crime, but the mass shooter in Norway that killed 28(?) people got a 21 year sentence with weekly mental health treatment and yearly review of his progress. Now they will probably keep him longer because he isn’t mentally stable still, but they are trying their hardest to help him. The USA prisons are for profit corporations. Crime does pay, it pays CoreCivic and GEO billions of dollars to cage humans in inhumane conditions.
100% agree.
Tribal politics just makes it easier for the governments of the day to lock up their opponents with many cheering them on.
I’m wondering what kind of experts their defense put on, and why they weren’t able to counter this shoddy logic.
antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa.
Also, I'm wearing all black. Fuck this gov't.
well this is terrifying. 50, 70, 100 years?
Again, great work, Ken!
Dang! I didn't know it, but I'm a downright antifascist myself! (Antifa for short). I have never met our Leader, and I'm scouring the internet to find him... or her... but I'm still looking...
I have never shot at a Police Officer or defaced private or public property, but I do find myself musing every once in a while about a certain felon who got the help of Russia and $10 Million from Fox News to get elected in 2016, requested 11,000 more vote from Brad Raffensperger, is rumored to have raped a 13 year old (credibly) , still has not paid E. Jean Carol, hid a ton of American documents at Mar a Lago, was impeached twice (but not removed because of a weird OLC memo, separated babies from their mothers and fathers during the first term and is still doing it, has established concentration camps and dreaming of making more, kidnapped a head of State, started an illegal war, fomented an Insurrection because he didn't like the results of the 2020 election, and is still murdering folks extrajudicially in boats that he assumes are carrying drugs....
I was sympathetic to Israel because of the Holocaust but their behavior vis a vis Gaza and Palestinians in general made me lose all sympathy for them.
I keep hoping that someone will off Bibi, Trump, JD Vance, Thiel, Musk, and some members of his cabinet, especially those that may be mentioned in the Epstein files, some SCOTUS who have gotten a lot of perks under the table but kept mum about it..
I'm not sure how many years I could get if the felon got wind of what I'm thinking and saying to my friends, sometimes).
After renaming the Department of Defense, we should rename the Department of Injustice.
For what I'm thinking, they might decide on a preemptive strike on me.
If we still had a Department of Justice and those Prairieland 8 got 450 years collectively for what they did, how many years should the Felon in Chief get for all HE did all by himself?
Great reporting as usual.
Looks like the left wing version of what happened to the January 6th, 2021, demonstrators. Extremely lengthy sentences and some only marginally involved (or not even involved) getting thrown into the clinker.
Wish folks from left to right would notice that governments will do this to anyone and while your tribe might spare you the opposing tribe will not.
Both Chris Hedges and I are against the overly harsh prosecutions of the January 6th demonstrators. Whether I agree with both sets of protesters is immaterial to me. I worry about governments throwing anyone that opposes their narratives into jail for a long time. We should not all become Starmer’s UK.
Gorka.
Shideler.
Egghead.
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Gorka was the first person I thought of after reading about this guy too!
are you aware of an appeal process?