Excellent work, as usual, Ken. What I'm looking for is an explanation of how the jury fell for this? This was a jury trial, no? How could the jury fall for this crap?
The judge seems to have had an appropriate level of skepticism, though. Why such long sentences? Decades in prison for vandalism is clearly cruel and unusual. Attempted murder of a police officer is a very serious crime, of course, and Song deserves to cool his heels for quite some time, but 100 years is way out of line with the usual sentences for this crime, isn't it?
My guess is these were mandatory minimums for "terrorism". In my view, mandatory minimum sentences violate the Constitutional separation of powers. We should start talking about that.
It’s not clear from what Song has said that this was attempted murder. I read he claimed he was defending one of his associates and had not been aiming his weapon at the officer.
During all the J6 prosecutions, I was actually appalled at some of the sentences they were handed out. My thought was where are all my fellow leftists that want to overhaul our judicial system of grossly overcharging and long sentences and where are my leftist friends not calling out for better prison conditions. Because no one on the left that has any power did anything about it, now the right is doing the same thing. We have to be better about sticking up for the other side when it presents itself. Causing damage, shooting someone is a crime, but the mass shooter in Norway that killed 28(?) people got a 21 year sentence with weekly mental health treatment and yearly review of his progress. Now they will probably keep him longer because he isn’t mentally stable still, but they are trying their hardest to help him. The USA prisons are for profit corporations. Crime does pay, it pays CoreCivic and GEO billions of dollars to cage humans in inhumane conditions.
It looks like the defense lawyers thought that impeaching the prosecution's witnesses would be enough to convince the jury, but they didn't offer a counter narrative about the defendants. So all the jury heard was scary antifa stuff from the prosecution for days on end. It is good that the defense got facility guards to admit to lying in their written statements, and that they got the police officer to admit he drew his gun immediately after arriving, but that didn't counter the narrative.
Dang! I didn't know it, but I'm a downright antifascist myself! (Antifa for short). I have never met our Leader, and I'm scouring the internet to find him... or her... but I'm still looking...
I have never shot at a Police Officer or defaced private or public property, but I do find myself musing every once in a while about a certain felon who got the help of Russia and $10 Million from Fox News to get elected in 2016, requested 11,000 more vote from Brad Raffensperger, is rumored to have raped a 13 year old (credibly) , still has not paid E. Jean Carol, hid a ton of American documents at Mar a Lago, was impeached twice (but not removed because of a weird OLC memo, separated babies from their mothers and fathers during the first term and is still doing it, has established concentration camps and dreaming of making more, kidnapped a head of State, started an illegal war, fomented an Insurrection because he didn't like the results of the 2020 election, and is still murdering folks extrajudicially in boats that he assumes are carrying drugs....
I was sympathetic to Israel because of the Holocaust but their behavior vis a vis Gaza and Palestinians in general made me lose all sympathy for them.
I keep hoping that someone will off Bibi, Trump, JD Vance, Thiel, Musk, and some members of his cabinet, especially those that may be mentioned in the Epstein files, some SCOTUS who have gotten a lot of perks under the table but kept mum about it..
I'm not sure how many years I could get if the felon got wind of what I'm thinking and saying to my friends, sometimes).
After renaming the Department of Defense, we should rename the Department of Injustice.
For what I'm thinking, they might decide on a preemptive strike on me.
If we still had a Department of Justice and those Prairieland 8 got 450 years collectively for what they did, how many years should the Felon in Chief get for all HE did all by himself?
When the Constitution was written, treason was specifically defined in it due to how it had been abused in English common law to criminalize political differences.
Domestic terrorism, insurrection and espionage have now taken it's place.
Looks like the left wing version of what happened to the January 6th, 2021, demonstrators. Extremely lengthy sentences and some only marginally involved (or not even involved) getting thrown into the clinker.
Wish folks from left to right would notice that governments will do this to anyone and while your tribe might spare you the opposing tribe will not.
Both Chris Hedges and I are against the overly harsh prosecutions of the January 6th demonstrators. Whether I agree with both sets of protesters is immaterial to me. I worry about governments throwing anyone that opposes their narratives into jail for a long time. We should not all become Starmer’s UK.
Thanks Ken, you’re providing a valuable perspective, and exonerating these assailants, but bringing some important thoughts and how we consider their crimes. It would be valuable to see you and Andy Ngo have a discussion/debate on these issues as you come at them from very different angles.
Ken I really appreciate your work, I just want to let you know, there were 9 defendants in the federal trial, 8 of them were sentenced together, and one is being sentenced today along with 2 people who took non-cooperating plea deals. Also, at trial they showed CCTV footage of one person doing property damage, so I don't think it's accurate to say seven people were involved in that.
The claim that a protester shot a police officer is also being called into question if you look at videos posted by the dfw support committee on instagram. I bet they'd be willing to share the trial exhibits if you wanted to see them.
Decades ago I had a sign printed (very professional looking) that reads "Start Seeing Fascism." I put it on my front door. Not a single person has ever mentioned it, much less asked me about it. I guess they don't see it.
Excellent work, as usual, Ken. What I'm looking for is an explanation of how the jury fell for this? This was a jury trial, no? How could the jury fall for this crap?
Unfortunately the transcripts don’t shed any light on this and I have no way to know what the jury was thinking. Your guess is as good as mine.
The judge seems to have had an appropriate level of skepticism, though. Why such long sentences? Decades in prison for vandalism is clearly cruel and unusual. Attempted murder of a police officer is a very serious crime, of course, and Song deserves to cool his heels for quite some time, but 100 years is way out of line with the usual sentences for this crime, isn't it?
My guess is these were mandatory minimums for "terrorism". In my view, mandatory minimum sentences violate the Constitutional separation of powers. We should start talking about that.
It’s not clear from what Song has said that this was attempted murder. I read he claimed he was defending one of his associates and had not been aiming his weapon at the officer.
During all the J6 prosecutions, I was actually appalled at some of the sentences they were handed out. My thought was where are all my fellow leftists that want to overhaul our judicial system of grossly overcharging and long sentences and where are my leftist friends not calling out for better prison conditions. Because no one on the left that has any power did anything about it, now the right is doing the same thing. We have to be better about sticking up for the other side when it presents itself. Causing damage, shooting someone is a crime, but the mass shooter in Norway that killed 28(?) people got a 21 year sentence with weekly mental health treatment and yearly review of his progress. Now they will probably keep him longer because he isn’t mentally stable still, but they are trying their hardest to help him. The USA prisons are for profit corporations. Crime does pay, it pays CoreCivic and GEO billions of dollars to cage humans in inhumane conditions.
100% agree.
Tribal politics just makes it easier for the governments of the day to lock up their opponents with many cheering them on.
https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justice/2026-03-10/prairieland-detention-center-ice-antifa-terrorism-shooting-trial-government-defendants
It looks like the defense lawyers thought that impeaching the prosecution's witnesses would be enough to convince the jury, but they didn't offer a counter narrative about the defendants. So all the jury heard was scary antifa stuff from the prosecution for days on end. It is good that the defense got facility guards to admit to lying in their written statements, and that they got the police officer to admit he drew his gun immediately after arriving, but that didn't counter the narrative.
The court notes from trial are all here: https://prairielanddefendants.com/category/court-notes/
I’m wondering what kind of experts their defense put on, and why they weren’t able to counter this shoddy logic.
antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa, antifa.
Also, I'm wearing all black. Fuck this gov't.
Again, great work, Ken!
Dang! I didn't know it, but I'm a downright antifascist myself! (Antifa for short). I have never met our Leader, and I'm scouring the internet to find him... or her... but I'm still looking...
I have never shot at a Police Officer or defaced private or public property, but I do find myself musing every once in a while about a certain felon who got the help of Russia and $10 Million from Fox News to get elected in 2016, requested 11,000 more vote from Brad Raffensperger, is rumored to have raped a 13 year old (credibly) , still has not paid E. Jean Carol, hid a ton of American documents at Mar a Lago, was impeached twice (but not removed because of a weird OLC memo, separated babies from their mothers and fathers during the first term and is still doing it, has established concentration camps and dreaming of making more, kidnapped a head of State, started an illegal war, fomented an Insurrection because he didn't like the results of the 2020 election, and is still murdering folks extrajudicially in boats that he assumes are carrying drugs....
I was sympathetic to Israel because of the Holocaust but their behavior vis a vis Gaza and Palestinians in general made me lose all sympathy for them.
I keep hoping that someone will off Bibi, Trump, JD Vance, Thiel, Musk, and some members of his cabinet, especially those that may be mentioned in the Epstein files, some SCOTUS who have gotten a lot of perks under the table but kept mum about it..
I'm not sure how many years I could get if the felon got wind of what I'm thinking and saying to my friends, sometimes).
After renaming the Department of Defense, we should rename the Department of Injustice.
For what I'm thinking, they might decide on a preemptive strike on me.
If we still had a Department of Justice and those Prairieland 8 got 450 years collectively for what they did, how many years should the Felon in Chief get for all HE did all by himself?
well this is terrifying. 50, 70, 100 years?
When the Constitution was written, treason was specifically defined in it due to how it had been abused in English common law to criminalize political differences.
Domestic terrorism, insurrection and espionage have now taken it's place.
Gorka.
Shideler.
Egghead.
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Gorka was the first person I thought of after reading about this guy too!
Great reporting as usual.
Looks like the left wing version of what happened to the January 6th, 2021, demonstrators. Extremely lengthy sentences and some only marginally involved (or not even involved) getting thrown into the clinker.
Wish folks from left to right would notice that governments will do this to anyone and while your tribe might spare you the opposing tribe will not.
Both Chris Hedges and I are against the overly harsh prosecutions of the January 6th demonstrators. Whether I agree with both sets of protesters is immaterial to me. I worry about governments throwing anyone that opposes their narratives into jail for a long time. We should not all become Starmer’s UK.
I hope they get a retrial.
are you aware of an appeal process?
I’m sure they’ll appeal the sentences and I imagine there will be some kind of reduction but not a lawyer
Thanks Ken, you’re providing a valuable perspective, and exonerating these assailants, but bringing some important thoughts and how we consider their crimes. It would be valuable to see you and Andy Ngo have a discussion/debate on these issues as you come at them from very different angles.
Ken I really appreciate your work, I just want to let you know, there were 9 defendants in the federal trial, 8 of them were sentenced together, and one is being sentenced today along with 2 people who took non-cooperating plea deals. Also, at trial they showed CCTV footage of one person doing property damage, so I don't think it's accurate to say seven people were involved in that.
The claim that a protester shot a police officer is also being called into question if you look at videos posted by the dfw support committee on instagram. I bet they'd be willing to share the trial exhibits if you wanted to see them.
Decades ago I had a sign printed (very professional looking) that reads "Start Seeing Fascism." I put it on my front door. Not a single person has ever mentioned it, much less asked me about it. I guess they don't see it.
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