Nihilistic alienated young men now re-direct from schoolchildren to political or politically adjacent targets. The "left" and the internet will be blamed, not guns or alienating society.
And not top-down viciousness, violence/war/incarceration as a means to solve difficult problems, or the increasingly mask-off open environment of corruption in which there are two systems of law: One for our masters/elites, and one for the rest of us plebes. Might as well take the law into one's own hands, if one doesn't feel like it's possible to get a fair shake or see justice consistently prevail.
Yes, it's absolute bullshit. 100%. And I know this precisely because of the Utah Kirk alleged shooter's "text messages" in which he supposedly says (with no timestamp) "Remember when I was inscribing the bullets, my love?" LMFAO these people either think we're all complete morons or they just DGAF what anyone thinks and are telling these stories to themselves.
So... It's all about the "inscribed bullets" now. No need for difficult-to-interpret, mixed-up, way-too-accurate, or too-long-for-screen-culture-attention span ideological screeds. Manifestos are so YESTERDAY, bruh!
At least that's what officialdom apparently wants us to believe, anyway. How convenient!
If you ask me, the whole thing is ridiculous. Back in the day, the CIA and FBI actually hired people who were capable of crafting semi-believable narratives for their domestic covert ops and assassinations. These days it's like a 9th grader on ketamine who's never read a real book in their life is writing this stuff.
The Kirk shooter's alleged chat with "my love" in which they discussed squad cars, his "old man", "those bullets I was inscribing", and virtually every other possible plot hole in the language of a 32 year old policeman was eye opening to me.
This uncanny flavor of sardonic detachment is the safe space of preemptive masculinity in our online age of *everything-at-your-fingertips* except for those essential things an adolescent most desperately needs; a sense of place and meaning, work/service, interconnectivity, material agency and consequence...
We are all going to be in serious trouble if everybody who has failed at standup comedy starts shooting people for laughs. Anybody for making guns harder to get? ... anybody?
I wonder about the word "irony". Might sarcastic be a better word to describe the way he liked to come across?
Sarcasm is extremely popular. It conveys a contempt for things while at the same time the speaker is putting across "I'm no fool. I know the score" without having to show any real knowledge of any subject.
Most people, but especially the young, don't want to be thought of as naive, innocent. This, to me, is proof that in American society, childhood beyond about age 7 is dead. Sarcasm gives the impression of being worldly wise without really being so.
It is an easy but bleak way to deal with the world and for too many, the world looks bleak.
You have my admiration. Teaching is becoming an impossible job with children exposed to anything and everything in our world of electronic devices. Even TV, all by itself years ago, was an intruder but now things are completely out of hand and parents are hard pressed to create the environment they would like for their children. I think we are fooling ourselves to believe that we are in charge. It is technology, by way of the profit it makes, that is in charge. We are hanging on as it pushes into a future over which we have effectively no control.
The push to develop AI and infiltrate communities with little or no recourse by the community is alarming. NC recently passed a bill that the governor vetoed, but was over ridden where consumers will bear the brunt of costs via higher electric bills not to mention the environmental impacts. I don't know about you, but who is asking for AI? I know I'm not.
I just saw a report on that action in NC on Breaking Points but what was most frightening was, on the same program, the interview with the coauthor (Nate Soares) of "If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies" who said he thinks for an infant born today, the chance of being killed by AI is greater than the chance of graduating from high school.
But we are departing from the topic posted by Klip. So much to talk about, so few doing anything more than talk and so few who have a clue about what those obsessed with profit are doing that will affect us all. We are on a roller coaster ride without safety features and there is no option to get off.
Just some food for conspiratorial thought: Another angle to this stuff. It's well known that the feds (and murky private security firms) have been investigating and infiltrating the online gaming/streaming platforms like Discord, Twitch and Steam (to name some). To say nothing of the CIA and FBI's (and Mossad/Unit 8200) infiltration and virtual co-optation of Facebook and soon to be TikTok.
Point being, at this stage of the game, it's highly likely that most mid-size to large gaming and chat groups have federal agents using fake names amongst their members and/or they are being actively surveilled with help from the platforms themselves. All of which makes me wonder if there isn't another MK Ultra type operation going on to "program" (I hesitate to use the term "brainwash") would-be assassins and patsies - or at least to guide people in that direction. This would hardly be an unprecedented approach. After 9/11 the FBI became notorious for essentially grooming Muslim-American men, hatching "terror" plots for them, and going as far as to enable them right up to the point of action.
I also couldn't help but think of Sirhan Sirhan. To anyone not intimately familiar with the assassination of RFK Sr., there is no possible physical way that Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian-American, was the shooter who fired the bullet(s) that killed RFK. On top of that, his lawyers have long said that he was brainwashed by some MK Ultra-related government program.
Just my vibe, but does “Anti-Ice” strike anyone as a genuine edgelord motto?
Might pass as a performative screw-with-everyone after I’m gone kinda puzzle, but “Abolish” or something like that would be more of a true-believer message.
Also, at this point, who can’t immediately envision some “agent” whipping out a blue sharpie and going all “Greetings, Fellow Kids!” with the casings.
I have to confess - I always thought "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" always sounded up like nonsense cooked up by Three Letter Agencies to justify more funding. ("Today's kids will be freebasing Schopenhauer and Nietzsche if you don't watch out!")
Thank you for a deeper if somewhat confusing deep dive into this young man's troubled mind.
There is one thing that really bothers me over this entire tragedy:
If he really was "Anti-ICE", how come he didn't manage to at least wing one of them?:
Of the 4 victims, NONE were ICE, but ALL were detainees?
As to the markings on the bullets, how can we be sure that *he* made them?
It ,might be interesting to find out if the bullets still inside the victims bodies were similarly marked.
As I am growing increasingly distrustful of what the Felon's regime and his accomplices are saying, I'm also remembering that the Felon would like to declare that there is an insurrection under way and declare Marshall Law.
What if this young man felt that the deportations were not going fast enough and decided to take the law in his own hands? His political affiliation seems murky at best. A nihilist view could go either way.
What if the first people on the scene saw an opportunity to blame "the left", just like Trump and his minions are all doing. Obviously, they would not have had time to engrave the bullets, just write in crayon.
I'd like to see the bullets coming out of the autopsy.
I share your skepticism. Unfortunately, the bullets themselves are highly unlikely to bear any markings as it’s the shell casings that are large enough to write on, not the actual projectile.
Nihilistic alienated young men now re-direct from schoolchildren to political or politically adjacent targets. The "left" and the internet will be blamed, not guns or alienating society.
And not top-down viciousness, violence/war/incarceration as a means to solve difficult problems, or the increasingly mask-off open environment of corruption in which there are two systems of law: One for our masters/elites, and one for the rest of us plebes. Might as well take the law into one's own hands, if one doesn't feel like it's possible to get a fair shake or see justice consistently prevail.
I'm seeing a trend. Nhilist edge lords.
Or a trend is being manufactured before our very eyes.
Seriously. All these inscriptions on bullets are ridiculous.
Inscriptions AND (alleged) CRAYOLA markings!!!
Yes, it's absolute bullshit. 100%. And I know this precisely because of the Utah Kirk alleged shooter's "text messages" in which he supposedly says (with no timestamp) "Remember when I was inscribing the bullets, my love?" LMFAO these people either think we're all complete morons or they just DGAF what anyone thinks and are telling these stories to themselves.
So... It's all about the "inscribed bullets" now. No need for difficult-to-interpret, mixed-up, way-too-accurate, or too-long-for-screen-culture-attention span ideological screeds. Manifestos are so YESTERDAY, bruh!
At least that's what officialdom apparently wants us to believe, anyway. How convenient!
Not even etching the bullets anymore. Writing on them with crayons will do.
If you ask me, the whole thing is ridiculous. Back in the day, the CIA and FBI actually hired people who were capable of crafting semi-believable narratives for their domestic covert ops and assassinations. These days it's like a 9th grader on ketamine who's never read a real book in their life is writing this stuff.
The Kirk shooter's alleged chat with "my love" in which they discussed squad cars, his "old man", "those bullets I was inscribing", and virtually every other possible plot hole in the language of a 32 year old policeman was eye opening to me.
This uncanny flavor of sardonic detachment is the safe space of preemptive masculinity in our online age of *everything-at-your-fingertips* except for those essential things an adolescent most desperately needs; a sense of place and meaning, work/service, interconnectivity, material agency and consequence...
Great reporting.
We are all going to be in serious trouble if everybody who has failed at standup comedy starts shooting people for laughs. Anybody for making guns harder to get? ... anybody?
So another one for the “Nihilistic Violent Extremist (NVE)” category?
As always, good reporting by actually tracking sources down with relevant facts to share.
Our children are subjected to intense hatred from a young age. They are spending their formative years with friends on screens. Who are these friends
I wonder about the word "irony". Might sarcastic be a better word to describe the way he liked to come across?
Sarcasm is extremely popular. It conveys a contempt for things while at the same time the speaker is putting across "I'm no fool. I know the score" without having to show any real knowledge of any subject.
Most people, but especially the young, don't want to be thought of as naive, innocent. This, to me, is proof that in American society, childhood beyond about age 7 is dead. Sarcasm gives the impression of being worldly wise without really being so.
It is an easy but bleak way to deal with the world and for too many, the world looks bleak.
That is why I remained a 2nd grade teacher. Even in my last three years of teaching, 7 year old's were starting to exhibit alarming behaviors.
You have my admiration. Teaching is becoming an impossible job with children exposed to anything and everything in our world of electronic devices. Even TV, all by itself years ago, was an intruder but now things are completely out of hand and parents are hard pressed to create the environment they would like for their children. I think we are fooling ourselves to believe that we are in charge. It is technology, by way of the profit it makes, that is in charge. We are hanging on as it pushes into a future over which we have effectively no control.
The push to develop AI and infiltrate communities with little or no recourse by the community is alarming. NC recently passed a bill that the governor vetoed, but was over ridden where consumers will bear the brunt of costs via higher electric bills not to mention the environmental impacts. I don't know about you, but who is asking for AI? I know I'm not.
I just saw a report on that action in NC on Breaking Points but what was most frightening was, on the same program, the interview with the coauthor (Nate Soares) of "If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies" who said he thinks for an infant born today, the chance of being killed by AI is greater than the chance of graduating from high school.
But we are departing from the topic posted by Klip. So much to talk about, so few doing anything more than talk and so few who have a clue about what those obsessed with profit are doing that will affect us all. We are on a roller coaster ride without safety features and there is no option to get off.
Just some food for conspiratorial thought: Another angle to this stuff. It's well known that the feds (and murky private security firms) have been investigating and infiltrating the online gaming/streaming platforms like Discord, Twitch and Steam (to name some). To say nothing of the CIA and FBI's (and Mossad/Unit 8200) infiltration and virtual co-optation of Facebook and soon to be TikTok.
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/us-government-report-reveals-how-discord-roblox-reddit-and-others-co-operate-with-the-fbi-and-homeland-security-over-content-like-user-generated-re-creations-of-mass-shootings/
https://www.leefang.com/p/private-spies-hired-by-the-fbi-and
https://www.svg.com/868491/twitch-and-discord-are-officially-under-investigation/
Point being, at this stage of the game, it's highly likely that most mid-size to large gaming and chat groups have federal agents using fake names amongst their members and/or they are being actively surveilled with help from the platforms themselves. All of which makes me wonder if there isn't another MK Ultra type operation going on to "program" (I hesitate to use the term "brainwash") would-be assassins and patsies - or at least to guide people in that direction. This would hardly be an unprecedented approach. After 9/11 the FBI became notorious for essentially grooming Muslim-American men, hatching "terror" plots for them, and going as far as to enable them right up to the point of action.
I also couldn't help but think of Sirhan Sirhan. To anyone not intimately familiar with the assassination of RFK Sr., there is no possible physical way that Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian-American, was the shooter who fired the bullet(s) that killed RFK. On top of that, his lawyers have long said that he was brainwashed by some MK Ultra-related government program.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/robert-kennedys-killer-sirhan-sirhan-brainwashed/story?id=13029050
Hi Tom, this is logical and makes sense to me. Thanks for thinking it through.
Hmm. I learned a new word: edgelord.
Just my vibe, but does “Anti-Ice” strike anyone as a genuine edgelord motto?
Might pass as a performative screw-with-everyone after I’m gone kinda puzzle, but “Abolish” or something like that would be more of a true-believer message.
Also, at this point, who can’t immediately envision some “agent” whipping out a blue sharpie and going all “Greetings, Fellow Kids!” with the casings.
Cuz that’s where we’re at.
Great job, Ken.
Context and humanity maintained.
Truth is the first casualty . . .
I have to confess - I always thought "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" always sounded up like nonsense cooked up by Three Letter Agencies to justify more funding. ("Today's kids will be freebasing Schopenhauer and Nietzsche if you don't watch out!")
Perhaps I could be wrong.
Amazing work as always!
Are these the nihilistic violent extremists we've been warned about?
Thank you for a deeper if somewhat confusing deep dive into this young man's troubled mind.
There is one thing that really bothers me over this entire tragedy:
If he really was "Anti-ICE", how come he didn't manage to at least wing one of them?:
Of the 4 victims, NONE were ICE, but ALL were detainees?
As to the markings on the bullets, how can we be sure that *he* made them?
It ,might be interesting to find out if the bullets still inside the victims bodies were similarly marked.
As I am growing increasingly distrustful of what the Felon's regime and his accomplices are saying, I'm also remembering that the Felon would like to declare that there is an insurrection under way and declare Marshall Law.
What if this young man felt that the deportations were not going fast enough and decided to take the law in his own hands? His political affiliation seems murky at best. A nihilist view could go either way.
What if the first people on the scene saw an opportunity to blame "the left", just like Trump and his minions are all doing. Obviously, they would not have had time to engrave the bullets, just write in crayon.
I'd like to see the bullets coming out of the autopsy.
I share your skepticism. Unfortunately, the bullets themselves are highly unlikely to bear any markings as it’s the shell casings that are large enough to write on, not the actual projectile.
Hmm. You are totally correct, unfortunately: Only the casings could be written on. The projectiles could also be mangled beyond recognition. My bad.