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Michael Wallace's avatar

I'm seeing a trend. Nhilist edge lords.

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Tom's avatar

Or a trend is being manufactured before our very eyes.

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M F's avatar

Nihilistic alienated young men now re-direct from schoolchildren to political or politically adjacent targets. The "left" and the internet will be blamed, not guns or alienating society.

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Tom's avatar

And not top-down viciousness, violence/war/incarceration as a means to solve difficult problems, or the increasingly mask-off open environment of corruption in which there are two systems of law: One for our masters/elites, and one for the rest of us plebes. Might as well take the law into one's own hands, if one doesn't feel like it's possible to get a fair shake or see justice consistently prevail.

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Marian Gillis's avatar

Our children are subjected to intense hatred from a young age. They are spending their formative years with friends on screens. Who are these friends

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Tom's avatar
3hEdited

So... It's all about the "inscribed bullets" now. No need for difficult-to-interpret, mixed-up, way-too-accurate, or too-long-for-screen-culture-attention span ideological screeds. Manifestos are so YESTERDAY, bruh!

At least that's what officialdom apparently wants us to believe, anyway. How convenient!

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kathleen quinn's avatar

Not even etching the bullets anymore. Writing on them with crayons will do.

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Tom's avatar
2hEdited

If you ask me, the whole thing is ridiculous. Back in the day, the CIA and FBI actually hired people who were capable of crafting semi-believable narratives for their domestic covert ops and assassinations. These days it's like a 9th grader on ketamine who's never read a real book in their life is writing this stuff.

The Kirk shooter's alleged chat with "my love" in which they discussed squad cars, his "old man", "those bullets I was inscribing", and virtually every other possible plot hole in the language of a 32 year old policeman was eye opening to me.

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LITTER, INC.'s avatar

This uncanny flavor of sardonic detachment is the safe space of preemptive masculinity in our online age of *everything-at-your-fingertips* except for those essential things an adolescent most desperately needs; a sense of place and meaning, work/service, interconnectivity, material agency and consequence...

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Susan Becraft's avatar

Hmm. I learned a new word: edgelord.

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Guy's avatar

Truth is the first casualty . . .

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Joe's avatar

So another one for the “Nihilistic Violent Extremist (NVE)” category?

As always, good reporting by actually tracking sources down with relevant facts to share.

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kathleen quinn's avatar

Great reporting.

We are all going to be in serious trouble if everybody who has failed at standup comedy starts shooting people for laughs. Anybody for making guns harder to get? ... anybody?

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Tom's avatar

Just some food for conspiratorial thought: Another angle to this stuff. It's well known that the feds (and murky private security firms) have been investigating and infiltrating the online gaming/streaming platforms like Discord, Twitch and Steam (to name some). To say nothing of the CIA and FBI's (and Mossad/Unit 8200) infiltration and virtual co-optation of Facebook and soon to be TikTok.

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/us-government-report-reveals-how-discord-roblox-reddit-and-others-co-operate-with-the-fbi-and-homeland-security-over-content-like-user-generated-re-creations-of-mass-shootings/

https://www.leefang.com/p/private-spies-hired-by-the-fbi-and

https://www.svg.com/868491/twitch-and-discord-are-officially-under-investigation/

Point being, at this stage of the game, it's highly likely that most mid-size to large gaming and chat groups have federal agents using fake names amongst their members and/or they are being actively surveilled with help from the platforms themselves. All of which makes me wonder if there isn't another MK Ultra type operation going on to "program" (I hesitate to use the term "brainwash") would-be assassins and patsies - or at least to guide people in that direction. This would hardly be an unprecedented approach. After 9/11 the FBI became notorious for essentially grooming Muslim-American men, hatching "terror" plots for them, and going as far as to enable them right up to the point of action.

I also couldn't help but think of Sirhan Sirhan. To anyone not intimately familiar with the assassination of RFK Sr., there is no possible physical way that Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian-American, was the shooter who fired the bullet(s) that killed RFK. On top of that, his lawyers have long said that he was brainwashed by some MK Ultra-related government program.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/robert-kennedys-killer-sirhan-sirhan-brainwashed/story?id=13029050

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Peter Murphy's avatar

I have to confess - I always thought "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" always sounded up like nonsense cooked up by Three Letter Agencies to justify more funding. ("Today's kids will be freebasing Schopenhauer and Nietzsche if you don't watch out!")

Perhaps I could be wrong.

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Trevor's avatar

Amazing work as always!

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Elizabeth Rosenzweig's avatar

Are these the nihilistic violent extremists we've been warned about?

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Clif Brown's avatar

I wonder about the word "irony". Might sarcastic be a better word to describe the way he liked to come across?

Sarcasm is extremely popular. It conveys a contempt for things while at the same time the speaker is putting across "I'm no fool. I know the score" without having to show any real knowledge of any subject.

Most people, but especially the young, don't want to be thought of as naive, innocent. This, to me, is proof that in American society, childhood beyond about age 7 is dead. Sarcasm gives the impression of being worldly wise without really being so.

It is an easy but bleak way to deal with the world and for too many, the world looks bleak.

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Jayman's avatar

A more boring question: Why was the game Rust blurred out in the Steam images, but not the others?

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