A little harsh to call me an idiot, I think. As it turns out I was an ancient and medieval historian. I'd be delighted if you'd like to talk more about the history of the church (Catholic, Orthodox, or pre-Schism). One of my research interests was in the political use of the interdict in the reign of Pope Innocent III, especially the grand interdict of 1208 promulgated against King John. Fun stuff!
I didn't say I thought the Catholic Church was good. I'm not sure an institution can just be "good" apart from its people. And even institutions populated by good people have their own remorseless, sometimes pathological logics. I just said I liked what the Pope's been up to so far.
Ken, the only Chicago namesake for this Pope that I can think of is Leo “The Lip” Durocher - manager of the Cubs of ‘Nice Guys Finish Last’ fame.
Maybe Pope Leo should lean in like Durocher. To his credit he’s way more vocal than Pius XII who kept pretty quiet during the Nazi genocide.
The church owes the Palestinians ever since Pope Urban II blessed them with the Crusades. Maybe Leo could call for Catholics to take to the streets or boycott. Maybe something bigger- like lead an aid convoy.
IMHO, speaking up just gets him on the field, now let’s see if he can be a player. And he better act fast if he’s going to do something - it would be tragic showing up with lunch after everyone’s gone.
We do have that saying, about putting one's money where one's mouth is.
Call on Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation. Let him go to Gaza and stand with the suffering people who are being massacred by Israel and the Western posers. He can go to Gaza right now, and insist aid be allowed in.
Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
Love this. I am very non-Catholic but have been deeply impressed with Pope Leo so far. Minor tweak: I think you mean Sassanian, not Sanasian. :)
fixed! thanks
Idiot. The Catholic Church is NO different from the Israelis. What they do is stay quiet.
IF you read Art History you would know that every Pope was complicit in degenarate sex.
Just take a look at what happened to Irish women!
A little harsh to call me an idiot, I think. As it turns out I was an ancient and medieval historian. I'd be delighted if you'd like to talk more about the history of the church (Catholic, Orthodox, or pre-Schism). One of my research interests was in the political use of the interdict in the reign of Pope Innocent III, especially the grand interdict of 1208 promulgated against King John. Fun stuff!
I apologise. I am sure you know a lot more than I do bUT to think the Catholic Church is good..................!
Why don't you do a substack about this?
I didn't say I thought the Catholic Church was good. I'm not sure an institution can just be "good" apart from its people. And even institutions populated by good people have their own remorseless, sometimes pathological logics. I just said I liked what the Pope's been up to so far.
I used to wonder if Pope Francis appearing in Gaza would change things, but he was too sick at that point. I'm glad Pope Leo is not mincing his words.
Maybe I'm an idealist but if Pope Leo were to physically go to Gaza I think he could really change things
me too. I mean if you bomb the pope; won't go over well - but also might start a bigger war. I think about this a lot.
Please see and sign the petition, I just posted. https://chng.it/gkvBfY44rq
Words and more words..............IF he cared, why is he not in Palestine.
Yes! Pope Leo ought to physcally go to Gaza and stay awhile, until the Israelis quit this insanity.
Ken, the only Chicago namesake for this Pope that I can think of is Leo “The Lip” Durocher - manager of the Cubs of ‘Nice Guys Finish Last’ fame.
Maybe Pope Leo should lean in like Durocher. To his credit he’s way more vocal than Pius XII who kept pretty quiet during the Nazi genocide.
The church owes the Palestinians ever since Pope Urban II blessed them with the Crusades. Maybe Leo could call for Catholics to take to the streets or boycott. Maybe something bigger- like lead an aid convoy.
IMHO, speaking up just gets him on the field, now let’s see if he can be a player. And he better act fast if he’s going to do something - it would be tragic showing up with lunch after everyone’s gone.
We do have that saying, about putting one's money where one's mouth is.
Call on Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation. Let him go to Gaza and stand with the suffering people who are being massacred by Israel and the Western posers. He can go to Gaza right now, and insist aid be allowed in.
Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
https://chng.it/gkvBfY44rq
Please sign the petition and share widely.
OH dear Ken. This is where I part ways with you. Absolute nonsense.
The Catholic Church could have stopped all wars.
Why didn't they?
In Vatican CITY in Rome are treasures galore.
Popes fucking little boys (Caravaggio) and. I know this is true.
How many Historians are allowed into the Vatican archives? Only the 2nd floor.
Fuck the Catholic Church they are NO different from the Israelis.