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Maal2Wavy's avatar

They have no issue with the tech billionaires backing the administration right now, they’re just auditioning to run the control grid once it’s implemented and it’s their turn to be the face. Who better than these velvet glove over the iron fist veterans. Thanks for shedding light on this and staying consistent Ken!

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James Gregg's avatar

Sad a draft dodger calls those who faithfully served as seditious.

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wrknight's avatar

Not just sad, but sick.

And not just a draft dodger, but a traitor himself..

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Eric Gross's avatar

Sherill was my congresswoman for years, and while I don't live in New Jersey anymore, I tried to get people to understand that she was just another war-mongering corporate Democrat, a right-winger who paints herself Just blew enough to be called Progressive because she's in a traditionally red district. I think anyone who views service in the US military as a positive is a danger to the future of humanity

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wrknight's avatar

I disagree. While there are many in the military and many veterans who perceive military conquest as a positive, there are many of us who have served who perceive differently. And though we may see things differently, I value my service and that of all who have served.

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John's avatar

Have known people who served that are truly good people who joined for good reasons. Also understand the traumatic cost of service for some and their families. I certainly would not dismiss a candidate because of service, nor the inverse.

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Jim's avatar

Such an empty strategy, obviously cooked by someone in their late fifties that hasn't had to check their bank account before a purchase in over a decade.

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Ken Klippenstein's avatar

🤣

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Madeline's avatar

A+ boomer burn 🤣

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Tom's avatar
Nov 23Edited

Damn good way to phrase it, so much so that I 'ratioed' myself in clicking "like" on your comment! I'd also add that it's a 'someone' who is (much like the MAGA Trumpist right) ensconced in their own 'intellectual bubbles' - which in the case of people you describe is the pages of the NYT, The Atlantic, or the Rachel Maddow type shows on centrist Democrat PMC and financial class-facing (aka the 2025 Trumpian version of the "radical left") cable news.

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Tom's avatar
Nov 21Edited

No comment yet about Trump's bizarre and dangerous rantings, but the phenomenon at the center of your article, Ken, is the end result of the Democrats having caved (or exhibited their natural, latent or hidden true tendencies?) during the "War on Terra Era" of Bush II/Cheney. This was when I became fully politically aware. Awake, even. Woke in a different sense. There were a tiny number of principled voices among the Democrats still left over from the late 60s and mid-70s Civil Rights and Vietnam era in 2000 when the election was stolen from Al Gore and handed to George W. Bush via activist judicial fiat, but after 9/11 and the massive wave of jingoism and fake patriotism (it being the last refuge of a scoundrel, so it was once said) being pushed by the American flag lapel wearing neocon and ascendant GOP, rather than become a real resistance party against militarization, war-mongering and the contrived "War on Terror" (and of course financial elite speculator bailouts) - the Dems started pushing military, then 3LA candidates on the American public under the first of many misguided strategies since, thinking that the average until-then Democrat voter believed this sort of pseudo-patriotic vetting was a winning approach.

Mark Warner was among the first of this breed. Jim Traficant was framed up for speaking out on this stuff (and against Israel) and his ilk, including Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich among others, were pushed aside for the type of candidates you write about tonight. And yet, rather than winning people over, they serve as fodder for the newly (faux) populist Trumpist right and not symbols of service to the American ideal. I find myself believing that the aforementioned MAGA-ists are actually correct about something again....but again, for the wrong reasons. Having CIA and War on Terror military bona-fides should, in fact, be a detriment for progressives or people like me on the anti-imperialist civil-libertarian left, who are now branded "terrorists." But not for why Trump and the faction of the MAGA cult that still supports him after Iran, Epstein, the DOGE purges, and the massively flagging economy (which is almost purely his fault) are claiming. Imagine. Calling CIA and Iraq/Afghanistan veterans "the radical left" and calling them traitors deserving to be hung..... Orwellian.

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Rebecca Abercrombie's avatar

Well, apparently the Democratic Party establishment will be continuing its trajectory downhill as far as the majority of voters are concerned…. Their ability to commit this constant stream of arrogant, hypocritical what-the-fuckery is gobsmacking. And anytime a candidate emails me asking for money because first, they’re a vet, and a Democrat who’s against Trump, if they cannot excite me with their political philosophy in the end, I’m done with them. Cannot wait for Jeffries and Schumer to bite the dust…. No wonder we’ve got Trump again, with these guys at the “helm”…voters either voted for that narcissistic sociopath out of angry desperation to change something—which the Dems weren’t offering—or just didn’t vote. Something that sure wasn’t the case in New York City! I doubt that Spanberger or Sherrill saw the same enormous grassroots support Mamdani had. And I happen to think there’s more to come of his type of candidate—as has already been shown elsewhere.

Apart from that, if anyone stops to consider the appalling global damage the US has caused with it’s hegemony, and the sheer expenditure of the constant military actions—with the grotesque contrast with domestic investment—it could be argued that the military budget sucks the life out of this country….

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Gordy's avatar

Totally agree, Spamberger and Sherrill and national security are not the future. Voters want their taxes used to improve lives at home, not destroy lives abroad.

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Cécile Stelzer-Johnson's avatar

How much money is being spent on the military deployment to Venezuela?

The daily cost for the U.S. military deployment to the Caribbean, aimed at Venezuela, is estimated to be at least $18 million per day, with specific warships costing around $2 million to $3 million daily. This naval force, which began in late August 2025, has already incurred costs of over $600 million and continues to grow. $600 SINCE AUGUST, AT $18 m/DAY!

Approximately 28.2 Million folks in the US have a drug addiction.

Divide 600 Million by 28.2 Million, you get 21.27 Million.

It comes to just over $1M dollar PER ADDICT. ($M28.2 : $M21.27= $1M.325)

Do you think that would make a dent? Help our addicts instead: they are our kids and they are a lot more deserving!

BONUS: we would not risk a bloody war with Venezuela, with Veterans coming back wounded or worse.

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Clif Brown's avatar

I would advise everyone to be very wary of these Moms who may be supporters of Israel eager to have a red herring to distract us from it. For the sake of our country that our Pledge of Allegiance tells us is for liberty and justice for all, job one is to examine every political candidate whether Republican or Democrat to be sure he or she is not a tool for ethnic cleansing Israel to maintain US support.

A site called Track AIPAC is a good place to start investigating current members of Congress. A more comprehensive rundown of Congress in regard to getting pro-Israel lobby money is The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Find your representative and senators on the scorecard for the 118th Congress (2024) at https://www.wrmea.org/pdf/2024november-december_paccharts.pdf

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Tankster's avatar

AIPAC is not a PAC. It is a group of Americans exercising their right of free association. They decide to contribute to candidates, totally legal and protected by the constitution. If there’s a cause others want to contribute to, and form a group to press for rights for say, “Queers for Palestine,” ha eat it. Meanwhile I resent all “J’accuse” statements about protected and lawful organizations, ani it’s America loving members, like me.

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Clif Brown's avatar

America loving? Then you must love liberty and justice for all, including "queers", not the ethnic supremacy of Israel which is the antithesis of what America has been about until turned upside down by Zionist money going to AIPAC (it is a PAC, part of its name) to make our corrupt Congress obedient not to you and I, we the people of America, but to Israel.

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Tankster's avatar

Your comments make everyone on the internet dumber. There are almost a hundred countries that are far more racist, colonial, and get free protection without the need to lobby the US for Aid. Why do we have so many troops in Germany? Who pays for them? Korea? Japan? Australia? Everywhere else?

The Muslim absolute monarchies and dictatorships would gladly kill you as a Kuffir, enslave you, make you convert, or maybe live as a Dhimmi. You're good with hundreds of billions to those other countries and troops. No US troops in Israel, except ones grateful not to have to get off in Gutter, and go to Haifa instead. All aid is military and spent here.

We get unbelievable payback for providing them with arms. They improve everything and share it. All telemetry for F-35s and other planes. Iron Beam, Iron Dome, Trophy tank protection system. Why are you so fixated on a pissant amount like $3.5 billion a year? Where is the Egypt lobby? You? They get $1.3 billion a year ---for what? Locking down their border at Rafah with Sunni Arab brethren, so they are locked in Gaza? Are you angry at Russia for occupying Kaliningrad? The Malzinas by England, not to mention Northern Ireland.

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Clif Brown's avatar

Anonymous person hiding behind "Tankster" will you be a proud American taking responsibility for your comments by using your real name as I do? Then, as equals, we can continue this conversation.

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Tankster's avatar

You want to Doxx me? Do you read John Le Carre? Publius? Kuffir

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Paul Snyder's avatar

Recall this propaganda piece from Cillizza? Spanberger and her finger wagging self righteous ilk can go fuck themselves.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/politics/abigail-spanberger-house-democrats-2020-election

Ten years Nav offering opinion here.

Spanberger is residue from the McAuliffe machine. He groomed and appointed her from her “badass” days as an English Lit teacher in Saudi Arabia who was recruited as a spy by the CIA. She later went back to be a Postal Cop like dear old Dad. Hence her reverence for those “heros” of our society, Law Enforcement, and her going shrill harpie anytime anyone mentions that allowing Police to dictate public policy and funding priorities might be a bit inconsistent with a functioning democracy.

Sherrill likewise is a cardboard cutout of a “tough chick” endlessly positioned with a Sea King in her background photos. She was a torpedo catcher (insert joke here) from training ops in Bahrain, Italy, etc. No combat ops. Funny how the whole corporate lawyer and self serving Fed Prosecutor is positioned just behind the Sea King. She’s a product of the Emily’s List establishment Dem pipeline rather than any political grass roots movement.

So, sure… run 2026 as a Return to the Past spearheaded by moderate poser opportunists installed by the Dem hierarchy.

Watch how that goes.

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Mary Pat Rowan's avatar

YOU HAVE DONE IT AGAIN! Pointing out that folks want change and not security.

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Ken Klippenstein's avatar

:) say hi to Hattie for me !!

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wrknight's avatar

The only security we need is protection from our president and his cronies.

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Patty Tanji's avatar

Oh wow messaging! Once again the downfall of the Democratic Party. "See Spot Run". Keep it simple folks and stick to problems that every day Americans can relate to. Lack of healthcare, safe streets, rising price of everything thanks to the "ap-ocracracy". "See Spot Run"... keep it simple.

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Charlie Cooper's avatar

I view Mamdani as a harbinger of a progressive revival and our best hope to rebuild a winning political coalition to cope with climate chaos, sustainability, war and peace, and economic inequality. But the statement by the military veteran Dems is a positive development and very important. Trump may try to cancel the election and may order the military to close down polling places, etc.

It's possible to believe two things at once. I believe the "National Security Moms" have the wrong path forward regarding the most important challenges, but their message to the military is important.

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Virginia Cutler's avatar

The GOP has tried for decades to be the party of strong defense, national security, rule of law, patriotism, the American flag, fiscal responsibility, even moral authority. They have lied and failed on every count.

The GOP has successfully stigmatized the Democratic Party brand, so horribly is it tarnished to the point of toxicity.

Of course national security is the primary responsibility of a POTUS, Commander in Chief. That's the world we live in.

I can't wait to vote for a national security mom.

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Bonnie Blodgett's avatar

The Democratic Party stigmatized itself.

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Tankster's avatar

Loved a quote. “Jeffries further said that that title belonged to Spanberger and Sherrill.”

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wrknight's avatar

"Today’s war is national security versus the people, and politicians don’t have much to say about that."

You want to be careful using statements like that. National security means a lot of things to a lot of people, and few people share the same image of what is national security.

There is a real enemy of the people and it is at the top of our government, but it doesn't include the entire establishment and, in fact, the vast majority of our national security system - the military, the intelligence community and others - are well aware that their first loyalty is to the constitution and the law, and not to the chain of command. It is only those who have been elected into positions of authority, those who have been instrumental in selecting the candidates, and their sycophant followers that are real threat to our democracy. They are a small fraction of the national security system.

So, please. When talking about x vs the people, do be a little more specific about who or what x is.

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John's avatar

Well said

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Madeline's avatar

Not an ideal development to declare "national security moms" as a trend, but it's not the worst imo.

1) Most women are moms or become moms. So, "national security moms" basically means "women in national security" and having more women in senior leadership in general, at least in business, has many benefits.

2) After so many years of flippant behavior from the highest levels of government about truly sensitive information, leaders with at least a modicum of discretion regarding sensitive information feel like a breath of fresh air.

3) For Spanberger in particular, she has many constituents who work in the intelligence community in Virginia. A representative who is familiar with the specific needs of that population has the potential to improve the lives of many Virginians. Will she she make life better for national security workers, or will her administration devote itself to the status quo? Remains to be seen.

Thank you for consistently identifying and questioning the assumptions about national security that pervade so much of modern life. You're doing the Lord's work, Ken!

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