Terrorist and anti Semitic are two serious charges that have been totally watered down by their casual use in the political and societal arena. They are now used to silence critics and instill fear.
Real terrorism is keeping classified pictures of Hunter’s hawg from the public. Also, wouldn’t an execution make him an even bigger star/martyr? I wouldn’t want this in the news at all if I were scheming on social security. Besides, Trump will have an annuerysm during a fast food dump before Luigi is injected.
Let's not lose sight that we have Dumbya to thank for hyper-inflating the use of "terrorism" not only in our lexicon but throughout our society, not the least being our laws and civil liberties. Remember those color-coded "terrorism alerts" we used to get?
Yes, the same Dumbya who brought us the hokey, contrived smokescreen of "The War on Terror"; who opposed the formation of the 9/11 Commission for over a year after the attacks; who agreed to be interviewed with Cheney by the commission only in private and not under oath; and who intervened to undermine investigation into Mossad's involvement in 9/11; and who acted to deflect Saudi involvement in the plot, and U.S. policy supportive of Israeli as cause for the attack.
In the good ole days "terrorism" was defined as " the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective." Now it's coming to include what you think, how you vote.
I like Trump and Elon. However, this is wrong, wrong, wrong. That man is not a terrorist. I feel like he was in a lot of pain and couldn't get help. I know how that feels. And, as a previous United Healthcare customer, I can attest to the fact that they were the absolute worst, most fraudulent money grabbing Healthcare company I've ever Healthcare with in my life. It is not his fault that many people identified with his feeling and made a fan club. It hurt him, though. Truly, this is a shit move and I guess I'll be writing another letter.
She's convicted him of (and sentenced him for) a crime before he's been convicted. I guess "innocent until proven guilty" was just a quaint American custom that Trump has tossed out the window. Which is great: think of all the cost-savings from eliminating courts and juries. Just charge and convict in one easy step! Ahh, MAGAs really know how to do efficiency!
Curious what you think Mangione should be charged with? And if you think his attorney will get him off on technicalities involving improprieties during his arrest, such as when he was read his Miranda rights. Seems a jury that's emotionally on his side could be handed this as a way to let him off. So . . . should he be let off? And if he were, would this put the fear of God in other unethical CEOs and maybe even get them to try to change the health care system? Isn't that why he did this?
I wouldn't go so far as to say Mangione is a political prisoner, because using the definition you quoted:
"a person who is imprisoned because that person’s actions or beliefs are contrary to those of his or her government" doesn't accurately describe why Mangione is currently imprisoned.
Mangione is imprisoned and charged because he shot and killed someone, not because of his beliefs.
Now, you can easily make the case that Bondi has politicized the prosecution by her actions. In a way, it's actually counterproductive in that it elevates Mangione's status beyond what he probably deserves. Better to let New York treat him like a common criminal than help turn him into a martyr who died fighting "the System" or "the Man".
In general, there's been far too much federalization of what were traditionally considered state crimes.
I mean, I don't know where to start. "Uncharted territory" as a descriptor doesn't do it justice. In a completely fucked up way it's kind of welcome....in that the R's have been heading this way for decades, really. Now the Truth is revealed and clear for everyone to see. And take in it's utterly disturbing reality. (It's been there all along).
I am struck by the distinction of a murder of a corporate health care CEO ( not condoned by me in any way), and the murder of a, well, anyone else. Human life is human life, or should be. In theory.
The R party simply doesn't give a fuck about human life and people. Good news is.... based on the results in Wisconsin and certain other things (Booker, AOC, Bernie, Democracy Docket (Cohen) , Kens reporting, etc etc etc etc I believe that that there's a possibility for a better world ahead if people will mobilize.
I am currently writing a blog and trying to create content that gets a lot of views. A reddit posting got 75,000 views. What I have learned, and my feeling is that... for activists who really want to make change, being moderate doesn't work. We live in a clickbait society. I feel like the algorithms are stacked to encourage people to do radical and self-harm things.
And this is obviously a vendetta from big healthcare and the administration. There is a shooter who killed 10 kids and isn't facing the death penalty.
Val Kilmer received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahada. Truly there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his prophet. One day soon, the same can be said of Sleepy Joe.
Terrorist and anti Semitic are two serious charges that have been totally watered down by their casual use in the political and societal arena. They are now used to silence critics and instill fear.
Ah, but don’t forgot to include other “casual use” cancel characterizations like Racist, Fascist, Hitlerian et al.
Real terrorism is keeping classified pictures of Hunter’s hawg from the public. Also, wouldn’t an execution make him an even bigger star/martyr? I wouldn’t want this in the news at all if I were scheming on social security. Besides, Trump will have an annuerysm during a fast food dump before Luigi is injected.
Glad you're back!!
I never left. I’m just not funny and this shit is depressing.
that is why i missed you, the hunter hog stuff is much needed comic relief
Let's not lose sight that we have Dumbya to thank for hyper-inflating the use of "terrorism" not only in our lexicon but throughout our society, not the least being our laws and civil liberties. Remember those color-coded "terrorism alerts" we used to get?
Yes, the same Dumbya who brought us the hokey, contrived smokescreen of "The War on Terror"; who opposed the formation of the 9/11 Commission for over a year after the attacks; who agreed to be interviewed with Cheney by the commission only in private and not under oath; and who intervened to undermine investigation into Mossad's involvement in 9/11; and who acted to deflect Saudi involvement in the plot, and U.S. policy supportive of Israeli as cause for the attack.
In the good ole days "terrorism" was defined as " the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective." Now it's coming to include what you think, how you vote.
I like Trump and Elon. However, this is wrong, wrong, wrong. That man is not a terrorist. I feel like he was in a lot of pain and couldn't get help. I know how that feels. And, as a previous United Healthcare customer, I can attest to the fact that they were the absolute worst, most fraudulent money grabbing Healthcare company I've ever Healthcare with in my life. It is not his fault that many people identified with his feeling and made a fan club. It hurt him, though. Truly, this is a shit move and I guess I'll be writing another letter.
Good to hear from you, Brandy!
She's convicted him of (and sentenced him for) a crime before he's been convicted. I guess "innocent until proven guilty" was just a quaint American custom that Trump has tossed out the window. Which is great: think of all the cost-savings from eliminating courts and juries. Just charge and convict in one easy step! Ahh, MAGAs really know how to do efficiency!
Luigi is a modern day American Garibaldi hero , as a third generation half Italian I say free Luigi and screw the War on Terror
Curious what you think Mangione should be charged with? And if you think his attorney will get him off on technicalities involving improprieties during his arrest, such as when he was read his Miranda rights. Seems a jury that's emotionally on his side could be handed this as a way to let him off. So . . . should he be let off? And if he were, would this put the fear of God in other unethical CEOs and maybe even get them to try to change the health care system? Isn't that why he did this?
I just want the government to follow its own rules! politics and justice don't mix
@Ken Klippenstein
LAW and justice mix like oil and sea water, just ask any pirate jury...
https://www.tba.org/index.cfm?pg=LawBlog&blAction=showEntry&blogEntry=27864#:~:text=Pirate%20Trials,51%5D
I wouldn't go so far as to say Mangione is a political prisoner, because using the definition you quoted:
"a person who is imprisoned because that person’s actions or beliefs are contrary to those of his or her government" doesn't accurately describe why Mangione is currently imprisoned.
Mangione is imprisoned and charged because he shot and killed someone, not because of his beliefs.
Now, you can easily make the case that Bondi has politicized the prosecution by her actions. In a way, it's actually counterproductive in that it elevates Mangione's status beyond what he probably deserves. Better to let New York treat him like a common criminal than help turn him into a martyr who died fighting "the System" or "the Man".
In general, there's been far too much federalization of what were traditionally considered state crimes.
I mean, I don't know where to start. "Uncharted territory" as a descriptor doesn't do it justice. In a completely fucked up way it's kind of welcome....in that the R's have been heading this way for decades, really. Now the Truth is revealed and clear for everyone to see. And take in it's utterly disturbing reality. (It's been there all along).
I am struck by the distinction of a murder of a corporate health care CEO ( not condoned by me in any way), and the murder of a, well, anyone else. Human life is human life, or should be. In theory.
The R party simply doesn't give a fuck about human life and people. Good news is.... based on the results in Wisconsin and certain other things (Booker, AOC, Bernie, Democracy Docket (Cohen) , Kens reporting, etc etc etc etc I believe that that there's a possibility for a better world ahead if people will mobilize.
How many countries still have the death penalty?
50 or so, but it's rare among developed countries.
Also many countries that technically have the death penalty haven't used it in years
I was actually waiting to see if anyone could list them.
I am currently writing a blog and trying to create content that gets a lot of views. A reddit posting got 75,000 views. What I have learned, and my feeling is that... for activists who really want to make change, being moderate doesn't work. We live in a clickbait society. I feel like the algorithms are stacked to encourage people to do radical and self-harm things.
And this is obviously a vendetta from big healthcare and the administration. There is a shooter who killed 10 kids and isn't facing the death penalty.
Val Kilmer received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahada. Truly there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his prophet. One day soon, the same can be said of Sleepy Joe.
Ken, how would you classify the Unabomber?