It's definitely funny, a little scary, but not that much because of how much of a dumb ass these guys are. It seems they will go after anything that moves. Continuous wasting of resources.
In fact under NPSM-7 they are going to be chasing the tails of 2/3rds of the population. Good luck to these pathetic losers on that one.
They should get a real job tho. Oh but how many of those are left? Soon we will all be terminally online doing made up jack shit to pay the bills like them.
It would seem no one can save the nation or the economy, definitely not some pseudo military jack asses scouring reddit for someone who actually wrote the words that everyone else on the planet is only thinking.
Yet another report of yours that would make a great black comedy if weren’t so frightening. I’d like to get inside of the brains of the geniuses who write this stuff. (And escape very quickly.) Instead of proving homeland (how I loathe that word) security for the people they purport to protect, these paranoid menaces are spending billions of taxpayer dollars coming up with new ideas every day for ways to arrest them (or worse). George Orwell is spinning in his grave.
When with a $1.7b deficit, we are mortgaging the future to be protected by a bloated and secret bureaucracy. And by the way the PayPal mafia and POTUS suckophants and family laugh all the way to the bank. 🏦
I'm concerned about the terms they use like "force protection". Obviously a military term. When Tom "bagman" Homan gave his press conference after they got rid of the neo-nazi uniform enthusiast he told the journalists that some of his people were tired because they've been "in theater" for 2 to 3 months. That's definitely a military term referring to a theater of war. Do they really think they are waging a war against the American people? No wonder people are getting killed. It's all wrong from the top down. There would be no resistance to them pulling out actual l violent criminals who are undocumented. People across the political spectrum would applaud it. Clearly that's not the "mission".
Hey that's why throwawau accounts are a thing (and the username in question is auto-generated to boot, although a consistent theme seems to be the inability of administrative agencies to understand that one can never assume a one to one correlation between user identity and actual meatspace person, or that people might not be entirely honest on the internets, out of all places)
Can we estimate how many taxpayer dollars are spent per reddit thread? Is this a better return on investment compared to facebooks or 4chans? What about the bandwidth/storage associated with this monitoring? Does it vary for text posts, images, or decoded references to Minecraft?
This tax season I’d love to understand which federal agency is most efficient at turning my hard earned cash into harvested memes.
Perhaps we should enter our names like D. j. Trump, address White House. Are Democrats paying attention to this Chuck, time to defund DHS, useless organization.
The old saying that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail certainly applies here. If you are an agent of authority, everything looks like a threat with the additional incentive that "doing a good job" means finding threats, real or not.
This is why the supposed "antisemitism in America" theme is so easily abused. Talk it up as a big deal and there will surely be the most minor things reported as major. Meanwhile, and this is part of the program, Israel's atrocities in the WB and continued killing in Gaza have disappeared from MSM.
There is all the fear by authority/power of what may get out to the public resulting in direct censorship or behind the scenes censorship as with Larry Ellison/his son/Bari Weiss/Tony Dokoupil. We the people should be the ones in the know about a transparent government, our servant answering to us, not keeping us in the dark and oppressing us.
There is a fight for the soul of the internet. Will it free the people in its fabulous ability to allow individuals to communicate without gatekeeping or will its ability to destroy all privacy allow authority to sit as judge on everything we say to each other with not a single one of us able to tell if authority is listening? Authority would love to stop individuals before they arrive at a protest.
Think of all the intelligence operations Ken recently listed and how every one of them has mission creep. Data centers are sprouting like mushrooms and most of what they will be doing will not be helping kids do their homework or allowing the curious to know when the grocery store closes for the day. They will be making business more profitable and government more intrusive.
What a bunch of AssHats! Why would they be concerned about violence when its goons are murdering American citizens in the streets and using children as bait to round up brown people. They should look in the mirror.
My 13 year old account u/projectrage with 680k karma was permanently banned by Reddit this week (which would normally be just that subreddit, not fully banned from reddit.) for listing the public city laws to turn off power to the ICE facility in r/Portland.
Last week I was permanently banned from Facebook for posting an image I FOUND ON FACEBOOK and took a screen shot of... It was originally sourced from Reddit, which can be read in the margins of that image.
(Image related to a particular ICE stormtrooper. Showe his un masked face, listed his name & hometown, doxing a federal agent- Tyler O'Ryan Gramlin from Borden IN. Tyler had been videoed in 3 different towns attacking non violent protesters and doing the good old "spray irritants into the eyes of restrained & compliant protesters while they are laying on the ground".)
Some basic questions here, Ken. Is it right to call it spying when the info being discussed is publicly published with the author’s handle? The person’s post is about protesting in front of a Border Patrol station. Has there been trouble during some ICE stations protests? Not all of course, but some. Should the Border Patrol and ICE not read public bulletin boards, but instead simply wait to be surprised by a large group of people gathering in front of their station? It’s not like that report then goes on to say, “we then issued a subpoena to Reddit to produce either the person’s identity or their IP address, and we now know it’s John Smith living at the following address in Richardson, Texas. Send out a team to bug his house and collect all mail arriving at his residence.” I mean come on now, it would be derelict for the Border Patrol or any law enforcement organization, during any sort of unrest over their agency’s actions, to not try to foresee threats coming, especially ones in public forums. It’s not like this was some sort of private forums.
How many times have law enforcement agencies been ripped for not having foreseen events or crimes where those were posted in advance of the event or crimes happening for all to read? How about all those kids who get together to do burnouts with their cars at various locations, should law enforcement not read the public postings of where they are planning those? Should they not pay attention to the poster of the info?
Let’s call foul (or spying) when foul (or spying) happens, not just because we don’t like the other side 😉
It's spying because it's not predicated on any evidence of a crime being committed. Law enforcement isn't supposed to just poke around in things without suspicion of a crime
So here’s the thing, today it’s pretty straightforward to set notifications any time your name (or your organization’s name) comes up across social media. Every company now sets such alarms to keep up with what people are randomly saying about them. Given the violence that has come to their stations under the guise of peaceful protests, why wouldn’t they keep track of those? A crime may not have been discussed, but from what you showed, the Border Patrol didn’t take any physical action against this individual, nor went far enough to identify them in meat space. So, I’m still not sure what is wrong about Border Patrol reviewing publicly published posts 🤔
There’s always someone to jump in to justify these actions. Absolutely astonishing… you know they’re killing Americans in the street, right? You think it’s okay to spend taxpayer money building out profiles of Americans exercising their 1st amendment rights, not suspected of crimes? This is borderline thought police shit. Let me guess you probably think that “both sides” have their issues. An enlightened centrist with an appetite for boot
Every single day ICE stomps out people's rights. Every. Single. Day. ICE needs to "foresee threats coming"? The only REALLL threats coming are the threats coming from ICE towards citizens. ICE are spying, yes obviously spying on innocents, while ICE are the ones humiliating, mentally torturing, kidnapping, physically injuring, and KILLING people. Instead of spying on innocents perhaps they should be investigating and firing many of these ICE AGENTS. People deserve to NOT be spied on regarding their actions to protest the insane corrupt horrific administration and the evil untrained white nationalist killing machines who get off on and brag about shooting and injuring ciizens. People's RIGHTS are being VIOLATED AND OBLITERATED by ICE each and every single day. Very very foul indeedy. Thus many are rightfully crying very foul. Spying on innocent people is clearly disgusting, and wrong, yet that is what's happening daily in the newly formed USA Dictatorship.
And ICE killing people, and harming them in droves, begs the real question... When will this administration start treating people like humans ? I think we know that answer.
ok, this response is unhinged and non-stop begging the question. i give up trying to keep the discussion civil and rational. you’re right and i’m a terrible person.
My 13 year old account u/projectrage with 680k karma was permanently banned by Reddit this week (which would normally be just that subreddit, not fully banned from reddit.) for listing the public city laws to turn off power to the ICE facility in Portland.
None of this is surprising. This is what they will do with a huge budget of taxpayer dollars.
What caught me is that the consider "reputational risks that warrant continued monitoring". Truly a paranoid agency.
Would be funny if it wasn’t so scary
It can be both!
It's definitely funny, a little scary, but not that much because of how much of a dumb ass these guys are. It seems they will go after anything that moves. Continuous wasting of resources.
In fact under NPSM-7 they are going to be chasing the tails of 2/3rds of the population. Good luck to these pathetic losers on that one.
They should get a real job tho. Oh but how many of those are left? Soon we will all be terminally online doing made up jack shit to pay the bills like them.
It would seem no one can save the nation or the economy, definitely not some pseudo military jack asses scouring reddit for someone who actually wrote the words that everyone else on the planet is only thinking.
Yet another report of yours that would make a great black comedy if weren’t so frightening. I’d like to get inside of the brains of the geniuses who write this stuff. (And escape very quickly.) Instead of proving homeland (how I loathe that word) security for the people they purport to protect, these paranoid menaces are spending billions of taxpayer dollars coming up with new ideas every day for ways to arrest them (or worse). George Orwell is spinning in his grave.
Thanks, Ken.
thanks Susan!
They should rename DHS DoP: Department of Paranoia. Mental health professionals would have a field day with these people.
This is what happens when you get a shit ton of money to look for threats that don't exist.
See also: war on drugs and all of the other moral panics which are now an American pastime
When with a $1.7b deficit, we are mortgaging the future to be protected by a bloated and secret bureaucracy. And by the way the PayPal mafia and POTUS suckophants and family laugh all the way to the bank. 🏦
ICE outing themselves screaming for mods.
lol DHS = forum guys
I'm concerned about the terms they use like "force protection". Obviously a military term. When Tom "bagman" Homan gave his press conference after they got rid of the neo-nazi uniform enthusiast he told the journalists that some of his people were tired because they've been "in theater" for 2 to 3 months. That's definitely a military term referring to a theater of war. Do they really think they are waging a war against the American people? No wonder people are getting killed. It's all wrong from the top down. There would be no resistance to them pulling out actual l violent criminals who are undocumented. People across the political spectrum would applaud it. Clearly that's not the "mission".
Yes they think they are special operators but have none of the training or capabilities.
I honestly don't know if I would be more scared or embarrassed if I read ICE's intel readout on my reddit use
Hey that's why throwawau accounts are a thing (and the username in question is auto-generated to boot, although a consistent theme seems to be the inability of administrative agencies to understand that one can never assume a one to one correlation between user identity and actual meatspace person, or that people might not be entirely honest on the internets, out of all places)
Can we estimate how many taxpayer dollars are spent per reddit thread? Is this a better return on investment compared to facebooks or 4chans? What about the bandwidth/storage associated with this monitoring? Does it vary for text posts, images, or decoded references to Minecraft?
This tax season I’d love to understand which federal agency is most efficient at turning my hard earned cash into harvested memes.
Thanks Ken! Many of us are glad that you are still working and helping us all stay informed. Much appreciated.
Perhaps we should enter our names like D. j. Trump, address White House. Are Democrats paying attention to this Chuck, time to defund DHS, useless organization.
The old saying that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail certainly applies here. If you are an agent of authority, everything looks like a threat with the additional incentive that "doing a good job" means finding threats, real or not.
This is why the supposed "antisemitism in America" theme is so easily abused. Talk it up as a big deal and there will surely be the most minor things reported as major. Meanwhile, and this is part of the program, Israel's atrocities in the WB and continued killing in Gaza have disappeared from MSM.
There is all the fear by authority/power of what may get out to the public resulting in direct censorship or behind the scenes censorship as with Larry Ellison/his son/Bari Weiss/Tony Dokoupil. We the people should be the ones in the know about a transparent government, our servant answering to us, not keeping us in the dark and oppressing us.
There is a fight for the soul of the internet. Will it free the people in its fabulous ability to allow individuals to communicate without gatekeeping or will its ability to destroy all privacy allow authority to sit as judge on everything we say to each other with not a single one of us able to tell if authority is listening? Authority would love to stop individuals before they arrive at a protest.
Think of all the intelligence operations Ken recently listed and how every one of them has mission creep. Data centers are sprouting like mushrooms and most of what they will be doing will not be helping kids do their homework or allowing the curious to know when the grocery store closes for the day. They will be making business more profitable and government more intrusive.
What a bunch of AssHats! Why would they be concerned about violence when its goons are murdering American citizens in the streets and using children as bait to round up brown people. They should look in the mirror.
My 13 year old account u/projectrage with 680k karma was permanently banned by Reddit this week (which would normally be just that subreddit, not fully banned from reddit.) for listing the public city laws to turn off power to the ICE facility in r/Portland.
Please look up my account.
I’m also a target.
Last week I was permanently banned from Facebook for posting an image I FOUND ON FACEBOOK and took a screen shot of... It was originally sourced from Reddit, which can be read in the margins of that image.
(Image related to a particular ICE stormtrooper. Showe his un masked face, listed his name & hometown, doxing a federal agent- Tyler O'Ryan Gramlin from Borden IN. Tyler had been videoed in 3 different towns attacking non violent protesters and doing the good old "spray irritants into the eyes of restrained & compliant protesters while they are laying on the ground".)
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qjfxbj/comment/o37c74j/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Some basic questions here, Ken. Is it right to call it spying when the info being discussed is publicly published with the author’s handle? The person’s post is about protesting in front of a Border Patrol station. Has there been trouble during some ICE stations protests? Not all of course, but some. Should the Border Patrol and ICE not read public bulletin boards, but instead simply wait to be surprised by a large group of people gathering in front of their station? It’s not like that report then goes on to say, “we then issued a subpoena to Reddit to produce either the person’s identity or their IP address, and we now know it’s John Smith living at the following address in Richardson, Texas. Send out a team to bug his house and collect all mail arriving at his residence.” I mean come on now, it would be derelict for the Border Patrol or any law enforcement organization, during any sort of unrest over their agency’s actions, to not try to foresee threats coming, especially ones in public forums. It’s not like this was some sort of private forums.
How many times have law enforcement agencies been ripped for not having foreseen events or crimes where those were posted in advance of the event or crimes happening for all to read? How about all those kids who get together to do burnouts with their cars at various locations, should law enforcement not read the public postings of where they are planning those? Should they not pay attention to the poster of the info?
Let’s call foul (or spying) when foul (or spying) happens, not just because we don’t like the other side 😉
It's spying because it's not predicated on any evidence of a crime being committed. Law enforcement isn't supposed to just poke around in things without suspicion of a crime
So here’s the thing, today it’s pretty straightforward to set notifications any time your name (or your organization’s name) comes up across social media. Every company now sets such alarms to keep up with what people are randomly saying about them. Given the violence that has come to their stations under the guise of peaceful protests, why wouldn’t they keep track of those? A crime may not have been discussed, but from what you showed, the Border Patrol didn’t take any physical action against this individual, nor went far enough to identify them in meat space. So, I’m still not sure what is wrong about Border Patrol reviewing publicly published posts 🤔
There’s always someone to jump in to justify these actions. Absolutely astonishing… you know they’re killing Americans in the street, right? You think it’s okay to spend taxpayer money building out profiles of Americans exercising their 1st amendment rights, not suspected of crimes? This is borderline thought police shit. Let me guess you probably think that “both sides” have their issues. An enlightened centrist with an appetite for boot
I realize you’re ideologically driven, but the relevant rights under the 1A are:
• Abridging the freedom of speech (protecting expression from government censorship, with narrow exceptions defined by courts).
• Abridging the freedom of the press (protecting publication and media from government censorship, including most prior restraints).
• Abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble (to gather in groups for protests, meetings, and other peaceful purposes).
What Ken shared did not violate (or abridge) any of these 3 guarantees.
As for killing people, try to stay focused and stop begging the question, as that’s not what’s at issue in Ken’s post.
Every single day ICE stomps out people's rights. Every. Single. Day. ICE needs to "foresee threats coming"? The only REALLL threats coming are the threats coming from ICE towards citizens. ICE are spying, yes obviously spying on innocents, while ICE are the ones humiliating, mentally torturing, kidnapping, physically injuring, and KILLING people. Instead of spying on innocents perhaps they should be investigating and firing many of these ICE AGENTS. People deserve to NOT be spied on regarding their actions to protest the insane corrupt horrific administration and the evil untrained white nationalist killing machines who get off on and brag about shooting and injuring ciizens. People's RIGHTS are being VIOLATED AND OBLITERATED by ICE each and every single day. Very very foul indeedy. Thus many are rightfully crying very foul. Spying on innocent people is clearly disgusting, and wrong, yet that is what's happening daily in the newly formed USA Dictatorship.
And ICE killing people, and harming them in droves, begs the real question... When will this administration start treating people like humans ? I think we know that answer.
ok, this response is unhinged and non-stop begging the question. i give up trying to keep the discussion civil and rational. you’re right and i’m a terrible person.
No need to beg. When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Thus I do.
i’ll leave this for you to ignore as you’re want to do, because it’s inconvenient: https://open.substack.com/pub/allfactsmatter/p/fact-immigration-is-about-the-law?r=fmgkw&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
You’re a Reddit mod deepthroating a boot. You’re not clever or special
yeah, insults & accusations rather than making a point…predictable 😂
You literally made ZERO ACTUAL points... and just gargled ICE's balls.
Imagine getting framemogged in the comment section of Ken Klippensteins newsletter by his jestermaxxing little brother
My 13 year old account u/projectrage with 680k karma was permanently banned by Reddit this week (which would normally be just that subreddit, not fully banned from reddit.) for listing the public city laws to turn off power to the ICE facility in Portland.
I’m also a target.