Discussion about this post

User's avatar
DANA's avatar

I don’t draw the same conclusions from my observations. So much to unpack:

1. Harris is a 60 year old professional woman. Like all of us, she has undoubtedly been told ALL HER LIFE like the drip drip drip of Chinese water torture that she was too soft, too quiet, too emotional, too sympathetic, not tough enough, not bold enough, etc. And when she WAS tough, she was undoubtedly told she was too harsh, too aggressive, too shrill, etc. I don’t worry that she is going to kowtow to the military, because I know this game. Unlike male candidates of a certain age, she has to show that she can function like they do in the toxic environment of male dominated military leadership, as the Commander in Chief of the most powerful nation on earth. The generals are partly window dressing for the old misogynists in the crowd who will be voting. Trust me.

2. I have unfortunately had to deal with high level military commanders and they are some of the most politically astute, arrogant SOBs you could ever meet, and they are EXPERTS at CYA efforts. I have no doubt that Milley, Mattie and his ilk were unprepared for the utter fecklessness, lack of discipline and complete disregard for law/custom/human decency they encountered in Trump. By the time they wised up and realized he’d take the whole enchilada down with him (including their pensions and careers) they likely believed that they were uniquely positioned to prevent some of the carnage, so they stayed. Until they couldn’t control him. Then, in a mixture of awareness (when the denial bubble burst) and self interest, they walked. This makes more sense than what you propose: that these guys are so emotionally unhinged that they throw tantrums and quit when the Prez doesn’t do whatever they tell him to do. I don’t worship soldiers, but I acknowledge the amount of combined effort, self control and strategy that goes into their functioning and performance of duty.

3. Despite your characterizations, when I read the Harris quote, I noticed that she doesn’t elevate the generals over others in importance or stature. What she is referring to is the fact that they were privy to classified info and had access to the President in unguarded moments of critical decision making. This is priceless intel that was available to only a small group. The fact that they are willing to come out and make these statements after what they experienced, to prevent the complete destruction of democratic norms and processes in a 2nd term, is significant for that reason. They know what Trump is, how he makes decisions and what he envisions for the future. He asked them why he couldn’t just call out the National Guard to go shoot protestors, remember?

4. Which brings me to the most important point: I agree that civilian control of the military is essential. However, I do not see any threat to that in Harris. The Trump presidency was anomalous and enlightening. He did us a great service in showing us where the cracks in our foundations need patching to prevent another wanna be dictator from attempting to hijack our Constitution and the spirit of our nation. But he is a threat to order and freedom - why? Because of his shaky, shady financial ties, his cult of MAGA fanatics, his lifelong abuse of the justice system, his alliances with and admiration of autocrats and oligarchs, his use of extortion, fraud and gang style management of every criminal enterprise (and some legit ones) that he has ever led. Basically, because he operates like Tony Soprano. All the zealots and grifters have propped him up with a structure and a vetted list of 5k loyal stooges to take over on Day 1 to enact his horror show of priorities here. So he may be incapable and incompetent, but his Oval Office Round 2 Team is not and they have had time to regroup. That in itself is good reason to temporarily suspend (yes, I know what that sounds like) some concerns about pre-election puffing and generals making negative reports about a candidate who is determined to end the American experiment in favor of anointing himself king for life (followed by the nightmare of a fundamentalist theocracy led by Shady Vance, for the pale male landed gentry only).

Ok that’s just my initial thoughts, enjoy.

Expand full comment
Susan Becraft's avatar

Condemnations of Trump by his former generals and natsec people have been ardently embraced by Harris to my dismay (and disgust). My initial reaction every time a new one pops up is, “Where the hell have you been for the last x years? Why now?”. The same people who decry election interference from [insert country du jour] have no issue with election interference from the U.S. military?

I also laugh sardonically at the Dems latest scare tactic. “Trump wants Hitler-style generals. He’s a fascist.” Have these folks paid no attention to Israel and the IDF in the past year?

Thank you for confirming what I was thinking. In my 81 years on this earth, I’ve never been faced with two worse major party candidates in a presidential race. Neither has earned my vote.

Expand full comment
15 more comments...

No posts