Born and raised in this city. I went out yesterday despite being scared and the ones escalating the situation were not the protestors. I was offered free masks and water by multiple people, there were bacon wrapped hot dogs and ice cream for sale. Moms with kids, people with dogs, every car driving by was honking in support. All I can say to the administration is…good luck.
The mainstream media class has a historical aversion to the unwashed masses. Unless there’s a ratings “angle”, they’re loathe to breathe the same unrarefied air as us bozos.
I get that they're mostly going to be focused on the carnage. But if you're going to have wall-to-wall coverage of a protest, shouldn't you ask a few people what it's even about??
Underlying the entire Trump agenda is bigotry with a flimsy cover of national security. MAGA really should be called MAWA - Make America White Again. As I may have mentioned previously, it has been a bit less than 100 years since the KKK marched openly in DC in full regalia of robes and hoods to keep identities hidden. ICE isn't the KKK, it is worse in that it is government directed and significantly the agents have their faces/heads covered to avoid identification. 100 years of progress?
Most of this country was indigenous and Mexican… They didn’t cross the border, the border crossed them! This is bullshit settler colonialism! This is quite simply about racism! El pueblo unido jamás será vencido.
Many if not most people in central America have significant indigenous ancestry. They were here first. Recently some Dakota people protested the ICE raids in Minneapolis, noting that this land is their land
You're the first person who bothered to talk to the protesters. In doing so, you uncovered credible reasons for their actions. Especially notable that their motives go beyond defense of undocumented workers and include general concerns about our descent into a police state.
I mean if you don't talk to the protestors then any narrative is possible. Thanks for digging into it Ken. Still good memories of your Wisconsin protest interviews. Keep going.
So right on. Total media failure. This is trump’s America. And the entire nation will be protesting this fearful hate-filled divisive tone that is 100% trump’s doing. Major media continue to cower; continue to miss the story.
If you aren’t able to find fault on the political left and the political right, you aren’t thinking critically. We need to find groups to belong to other than political teams. We really do have it in our power to demand better from our leaders.
[While Trump and company scream “foreign invasion,” the opposition cry “fascism.”] i don’t think these two are quite equivalent though— protestors are also “crying fascism” quite rightly. Historically fascism creeps in as the ruling capitalist class approaches the only remaining line item that may be squeezed to rescue profits; costs of labor itself. Oppressed labor is always the cheapest labor, laying a price floor against which all labor ultimately competes. When citizen wages and living costs produce unrest, the barons can either cough up for better wages, or drive the bottom down by threatening the security of already precarious labor. And if that won’t do the trick… well, shit gets real. I’d surmise US employers of prison labor will be maneuvering to get more bodies in prisons, among other foreign alternatives.
Thank you! The endless play-calling and handicapping of which side has the advantage is driving me nuts. I expect this from Trump and from the media (I've said for years that you can treat the media and Trump as enemies, or even as separate, they are completely intertwined and dependent on each other), but the Democrats are leaning into it as well. They don't want to let the voices of the actual people be heard, but this will be the Democrats' greatest nightmare: the start of a real power base that can resist Trump. Democrats are more scared of that than they are of Trump.
The insanity, hypocrisy, anti-constitution, and elitist white supremacy continues. Of course, a balanced and fair "law and order" approach would focus not only on the poor-and-low-income criminal (immigration laws---give me a break) strata but on white-collar crime. Thus, for every iCE agent sent to round up immigrants (or those who simply look like immigrants,) there would be an equal number of ---what is it FTC (?) --- agents on Wall Street rounding up, hand cuffing, hauling off to detention centers illegal traders and market manipulators known to be breaking laws in blue suits where unenforced crimes occur every day. Just saying"...
That's just great. The President creating a problem where none existed so that he can solve it in the sloppiest way imaginable to earn points with his dumbass base.
> While Trump and company scream “foreign invasion,” the opposition cry “fascism.”
What a clanging, hollow note to end this piece on. You can hate the Dems, you can roll your eyes at the "fascism" accusations, but Trump's actions in LA only give them credence! NOTHING in this piece says otherwise. The protestors themselves are calling this fascist. One of the first guys interviewed in Callaghan's vid calls it "Gestapo tactics." You're showing an ugly kind of inverse partisanship here.
And for what it's worth, I don't even necessarily agree with the protestors, or the Democrats. Trump *has* some kind of mandate for ICE raids. But he has probably broken the law here, if not in the raids themselves, then by deploying the military to LA under false pretenses, and I am very troubled by his escalating rhetoric, including his statement suggesting the governor should be arrested. It's looking bad. It's not crazy to gravitate to the "opposition" that is calling his actions "fascist." Even if that is mistaken.
They are not any human I want to be around. Maybe they should come to YOUR neighborhood. Are there enough Police to protect you? Lib men are always the FIRST to scream.
Born and raised in this city. I went out yesterday despite being scared and the ones escalating the situation were not the protestors. I was offered free masks and water by multiple people, there were bacon wrapped hot dogs and ice cream for sale. Moms with kids, people with dogs, every car driving by was honking in support. All I can say to the administration is…good luck.
The mainstream media class has a historical aversion to the unwashed masses. Unless there’s a ratings “angle”, they’re loathe to breathe the same unrarefied air as us bozos.
I get that they're mostly going to be focused on the carnage. But if you're going to have wall-to-wall coverage of a protest, shouldn't you ask a few people what it's even about??
Literally every interview I could find the person spoke perfect english lol.
Thanks!
“I tasted tear gas, it tasted like fascism.” Epic
Good work, Ken.
Underlying the entire Trump agenda is bigotry with a flimsy cover of national security. MAGA really should be called MAWA - Make America White Again. As I may have mentioned previously, it has been a bit less than 100 years since the KKK marched openly in DC in full regalia of robes and hoods to keep identities hidden. ICE isn't the KKK, it is worse in that it is government directed and significantly the agents have their faces/heads covered to avoid identification. 100 years of progress?
Wow these are some key missing pieces.
Everyone including me is commenting from ignorance.
(Just today I listened to someone ask in all seriousness: where are the illegals? Why aren't THEY out protesting?)
Anyway, thanks for delivering the rest of the story.
Most of this country was indigenous and Mexican… They didn’t cross the border, the border crossed them! This is bullshit settler colonialism! This is quite simply about racism! El pueblo unido jamás será vencido.
Many if not most people in central America have significant indigenous ancestry. They were here first. Recently some Dakota people protested the ICE raids in Minneapolis, noting that this land is their land
Glad you found it helpful! What was missing, in your experience?
You're the first person who bothered to talk to the protesters. In doing so, you uncovered credible reasons for their actions. Especially notable that their motives go beyond defense of undocumented workers and include general concerns about our descent into a police state.
If it wasn't clear, I was faulting other coverage that omits these important factors.
I know, was just curious !
I mean if you don't talk to the protestors then any narrative is possible. Thanks for digging into it Ken. Still good memories of your Wisconsin protest interviews. Keep going.
Thanks! I loved doing that. Genuinely really curious what people think because it’s always more subtle than you expect
So right on. Total media failure. This is trump’s America. And the entire nation will be protesting this fearful hate-filled divisive tone that is 100% trump’s doing. Major media continue to cower; continue to miss the story.
Media and Dems are puppets.I wonder if they know it.
If you aren’t able to find fault on the political left and the political right, you aren’t thinking critically. We need to find groups to belong to other than political teams. We really do have it in our power to demand better from our leaders.
[While Trump and company scream “foreign invasion,” the opposition cry “fascism.”] i don’t think these two are quite equivalent though— protestors are also “crying fascism” quite rightly. Historically fascism creeps in as the ruling capitalist class approaches the only remaining line item that may be squeezed to rescue profits; costs of labor itself. Oppressed labor is always the cheapest labor, laying a price floor against which all labor ultimately competes. When citizen wages and living costs produce unrest, the barons can either cough up for better wages, or drive the bottom down by threatening the security of already precarious labor. And if that won’t do the trick… well, shit gets real. I’d surmise US employers of prison labor will be maneuvering to get more bodies in prisons, among other foreign alternatives.
Thank you! The endless play-calling and handicapping of which side has the advantage is driving me nuts. I expect this from Trump and from the media (I've said for years that you can treat the media and Trump as enemies, or even as separate, they are completely intertwined and dependent on each other), but the Democrats are leaning into it as well. They don't want to let the voices of the actual people be heard, but this will be the Democrats' greatest nightmare: the start of a real power base that can resist Trump. Democrats are more scared of that than they are of Trump.
pure horse race coverage, it's so annoying and empty
True. But unfortunately, that drives the ratings. "If it bleeds, it leads". Thanks for shining a light on the actual protestors!
The Uniparty is happy.
imma have to try me some of that Channel 5 news
This is a really wonderful piece. Thank you.
The insanity, hypocrisy, anti-constitution, and elitist white supremacy continues. Of course, a balanced and fair "law and order" approach would focus not only on the poor-and-low-income criminal (immigration laws---give me a break) strata but on white-collar crime. Thus, for every iCE agent sent to round up immigrants (or those who simply look like immigrants,) there would be an equal number of ---what is it FTC (?) --- agents on Wall Street rounding up, hand cuffing, hauling off to detention centers illegal traders and market manipulators known to be breaking laws in blue suits where unenforced crimes occur every day. Just saying"...
That's just great. The President creating a problem where none existed so that he can solve it in the sloppiest way imaginable to earn points with his dumbass base.
> While Trump and company scream “foreign invasion,” the opposition cry “fascism.”
What a clanging, hollow note to end this piece on. You can hate the Dems, you can roll your eyes at the "fascism" accusations, but Trump's actions in LA only give them credence! NOTHING in this piece says otherwise. The protestors themselves are calling this fascist. One of the first guys interviewed in Callaghan's vid calls it "Gestapo tactics." You're showing an ugly kind of inverse partisanship here.
And for what it's worth, I don't even necessarily agree with the protestors, or the Democrats. Trump *has* some kind of mandate for ICE raids. But he has probably broken the law here, if not in the raids themselves, then by deploying the military to LA under false pretenses, and I am very troubled by his escalating rhetoric, including his statement suggesting the governor should be arrested. It's looking bad. It's not crazy to gravitate to the "opposition" that is calling his actions "fascist." Even if that is mistaken.
What opposition? The Democrats aren’t an opposition party; they just play one on tv.
For me, what most everyone said below seems true in one way or another!
They are not any human I want to be around. Maybe they should come to YOUR neighborhood. Are there enough Police to protect you? Lib men are always the FIRST to scream.