Lol bro they make it sound like it's some kind of comic book gangster's hideout. It's just a park. There are a lot of street vendors and houseless folks, and ya some immigrants do go down there to try and get IDs so they can get a job and live their life. The fact that that seems to inspire the need for militaristic violence in the upper echelons of the Trump regime shows how deep the white supremacy is rooted. They are desperate to disrupt any ability for immigrants to live here. It is beyond reason. That is why so many of us in LA are not waiting for discourse to solve this and trying to actively resist. This was after all a show, not against MS-13, but the whole city and its immigrant population. They want us to be scared and submissive. We won't be.
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Thank you for your coverage. Thank you for putting a light on to this. I’m continually impressed by your access. I know I’m repeating myself but you are doing something incredibly helpful for the rest of us.
This is an outright military occupation. But they clearly don't trust their own troops to broadly attack civilians, yet, hence the addition of an abort criteria if a 1,000 person protest is identified within 3 miles. They are still getting the National Guard and the Army used to the idea that their role is to occupy American cities.
LA is the new West Bank and after ethnic cleansing the West Bank will be the new LA. We're living in Steven Miller's world, bald heads optional BTW, where did these uniformed thugs get their training?
He was at a press conference about wildfires and mentioned MacArthur park and something about a disgrace and began talking about trump and I was pretty lost until I seen your article here and it filled me in.
My goodness, that's my old childhood stomping grounds you're writing about. Not far from the Ramparts police station. I remember back in the 1960s, being with a friend, RIP, who found some handy pieces of lumber, and other items, to relieve the construction site of, back when it was being built. My friend went on to be a 'famous' leftish writer. Ah, LA in the good old days!
Sounds like bad news now for everyone involved. Not that it was a posh area when I lived there, but things seem to have deteriorated.
While these types of operations with that many federal and local agencies involved can be complex and seem chaotic, it is necessary since the National Guard is restricted by Posse Comitatus. And I’m sure you can find low ranking soldiers who are bored or have no idea about the operational details and will sound off. But I didn’t see any sources named or what rank they were…just “some soldiers…”
Anyway, obviously there was good intelligence on that park being a hotbed of illegal activity, as cited in the article…fake IDs, etc. As an American citizen, I would be more concerned about that, than some soldiers complaining…
Posse Comitatus applies when the National Guard is assisting law enforcement in general, right? So why are there so many different law enforcement and enforcement-adjacent federal agencies involved? Wouldn't one be sufficient?
Yes...if the National Guard has been activated for Federal duty, as it has in this case of the California National Guard, Posse Comitatus applies, and they can only provide support to Law Enforcement Agencies (LEA). SO, the idea of the military involved in rounding up and arresting American citizens is not true. In this operation their involvement was limited to providing a cordon around the park while the LEA conducted its sweeps.
As to why so many LEA are involved, that is the nature of operations of this kind where multiple agencies from the Federal, state and local level have different jurisdictions, but the agency which is primarily responsible for the operation is in charge. For instance, federal LEAs want to cooperate with the local police, etc. and so that takes complex coordination. and yes, sometimes egos get involved...especially for the LEAs that are not in charge. Anyway, this kind of a joint operation goes on every day in our country, and they don't always have this many LEA involved...it just depends on what the goals and objectives are...
Lol bro they make it sound like it's some kind of comic book gangster's hideout. It's just a park. There are a lot of street vendors and houseless folks, and ya some immigrants do go down there to try and get IDs so they can get a job and live their life. The fact that that seems to inspire the need for militaristic violence in the upper echelons of the Trump regime shows how deep the white supremacy is rooted. They are desperate to disrupt any ability for immigrants to live here. It is beyond reason. That is why so many of us in LA are not waiting for discourse to solve this and trying to actively resist. This was after all a show, not against MS-13, but the whole city and its immigrant population. They want us to be scared and submissive. We won't be.
https://bettergracesandliberations.substack.com/p/a-word-from-los-angeles
BTW, I would appreciate it if the community could like, subscribe, and share. Sorry to plug, but it's hard for writers to make a living and leftist writers are really getting pushed out of the big publications. Any help is appreciated.
Lightning fast response from Ken Klip! What a shitshow - I feel for the Guardsmen forced to participate in this total clownfuck.
Thank you for your coverage. Thank you for putting a light on to this. I’m continually impressed by your access. I know I’m repeating myself but you are doing something incredibly helpful for the rest of us.
Doing my best, thanks!
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, lol. It sounds like a plot for a dark comedy. Thanks, Ken.
This is an outright military occupation. But they clearly don't trust their own troops to broadly attack civilians, yet, hence the addition of an abort criteria if a 1,000 person protest is identified within 3 miles. They are still getting the National Guard and the Army used to the idea that their role is to occupy American cities.
These are our sons and daughters, being asked to pretend.
What in the actual fuck did I just read?!?! It's giving Hogan's heroes meets Gilligan's Island, in terms of camp and stupidity.
I can't imagine joining the national guard and getting dispatched just sitting in a truck for an hour, as "a show of force."
LA is the new West Bank and after ethnic cleansing the West Bank will be the new LA. We're living in Steven Miller's world, bald heads optional BTW, where did these uniformed thugs get their training?
Seems like they are trying to engineer Escape from LA
Did someone left America's birthday cake out in the rain?
I wonder how many people under the age of 65 will get that reference.
It was in the new Beetlejuice. Along with the “Excalibur” operation name, there’s obviously a huge Richard Harris fan planning these at Homeland.
I wouldn’t be suprised if the whole operation was an inside joke gone wrong, like Q-Anon.
Just heard Newsom talk about this and had no idea what he was referencing. Thank you for the news!
What did he say?
He was at a press conference about wildfires and mentioned MacArthur park and something about a disgrace and began talking about trump and I was pretty lost until I seen your article here and it filled me in.
Glad we’re wasting time and resources on this fucking circus 🎪🙄
Having to ID as a friendly? WTF?? The sheer stupidity of it all!
My goodness, that's my old childhood stomping grounds you're writing about. Not far from the Ramparts police station. I remember back in the 1960s, being with a friend, RIP, who found some handy pieces of lumber, and other items, to relieve the construction site of, back when it was being built. My friend went on to be a 'famous' leftish writer. Ah, LA in the good old days!
Sounds like bad news now for everyone involved. Not that it was a posh area when I lived there, but things seem to have deteriorated.
Damn! RC Cola's still around? Boy, I miss that . . . .
I miss Tab! And Pepsi Light (with lemon) :)
Operation Excalibur - wondering just who was the Lady of the Lake in this scenario?
Also, LASD must either be old or unfavored to be called R/C
While these types of operations with that many federal and local agencies involved can be complex and seem chaotic, it is necessary since the National Guard is restricted by Posse Comitatus. And I’m sure you can find low ranking soldiers who are bored or have no idea about the operational details and will sound off. But I didn’t see any sources named or what rank they were…just “some soldiers…”
Anyway, obviously there was good intelligence on that park being a hotbed of illegal activity, as cited in the article…fake IDs, etc. As an American citizen, I would be more concerned about that, than some soldiers complaining…
Posse Comitatus applies when the National Guard is assisting law enforcement in general, right? So why are there so many different law enforcement and enforcement-adjacent federal agencies involved? Wouldn't one be sufficient?
Yes...if the National Guard has been activated for Federal duty, as it has in this case of the California National Guard, Posse Comitatus applies, and they can only provide support to Law Enforcement Agencies (LEA). SO, the idea of the military involved in rounding up and arresting American citizens is not true. In this operation their involvement was limited to providing a cordon around the park while the LEA conducted its sweeps.
As to why so many LEA are involved, that is the nature of operations of this kind where multiple agencies from the Federal, state and local level have different jurisdictions, but the agency which is primarily responsible for the operation is in charge. For instance, federal LEAs want to cooperate with the local police, etc. and so that takes complex coordination. and yes, sometimes egos get involved...especially for the LEAs that are not in charge. Anyway, this kind of a joint operation goes on every day in our country, and they don't always have this many LEA involved...it just depends on what the goals and objectives are...